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To: ncfool

I looked over that recent executive order a few months ago, and it was something that was a continuation of Bush’s former executive order — as a lot of the wording was the same.

But, I also see that Obama’s Executive Order 13489 — *restores* — “Ronald Reagan’s Executive Order 12667

Executive Order 12667 established a procedure for former United States Presidents to limit access to certain records which would otherwise have been released by the National Archives and Records Administration under the Presidential Records Act of 1978. It was issued by President Ronald Reagan on 18 January 1989.

The Executive Order was superseded by Executive Order 13233 on 1 November 2001, which allows former Presidents to have greater control over which records are released by the NARA. President George W. Bush’s Executive Order 13233 was then revoked by President Barack Obama on January 21, 2009, his first day in office, who essentially restored the provisions of Order 12667 in his new Order.[1]

Executive Order 12667

Executive Order 13233

Executive Order 13489

It appears that people should be thanking Obama for restoring President Ronald Reagan’s Executive Order in doing this... :-)

18 posted on 07/30/2009 12:04:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
I have a very different read here. From your wiki link:
Obama essentially restored the wording of Executive Order 12667, by repeating most of the text of that order with minor changes. One notable change is that vice presidential records are explicitly covered by his new order.
My read on the above is that wiki is wrong. Actually the new EO EXCLUDES vp and former vp records from protection. The devil is in the details. President Bush's EO revoked the President Reagan EO and Mr. Obama revoked President Bush's EO:

Sec. 11. Vice Presidential Records.

(a) Pursuant to section 2207 of title 44 of the United States Code, the Presidential Records Act applies to the executive records of the Vice President. Subject to subsections (b) and (c), this order shall also apply with respect to any such records that are subject to any constitutionally based privilege that the former Vice President may be entitled to invoke, but in the administration of this order with respect to such records, references in this order to a former President shall be deemed also to be references to the relevant former Vice President.

(b) Subsection (a) shall not be deemed to authorize a Vice President or former Vice President to invoke any constitutional privilege of a President or former President except as authorized by that President or former President.

(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to grant, limit, or otherwise affect any privilege of a President, Vice President, former President, or former Vice President.


Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked. THE WHITE HOUSE, January 21, 2009
Section1: Both (c) and (d) are changed. Have not research yet the significance of the CFRs as well as the other "minor" changes. All legal foks out there agree/disagree with my read?
20 posted on 07/30/2009 2:40:01 PM PDT by luckybogey
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