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UIPA request to Hawaii
7/31/2009 | Vanity

Posted on 07/31/2009 11:29:30 AM PDT by MissTickly

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1 posted on 07/31/2009 11:29:31 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

They have 10 days to respond to this from the time you send it. If they reject it or don’t respond, write to the lt Governor this:

Dear Lt. Governor Aiona,

I have filed a UIPA request with a Hawaiian government agency. I would like to know the procedure to follow in order to pursue this request should it be denied or go unanswered for 10 days.

Can you instruct me on that procedure or forward this request to the appropriate person in the Office Of Information, or elsewhere, who can provide me the procedure to follow?

I would also like the email address & phone number for the Director of the Office of Information and address of the Department/Office.

Thank you for your help!


2 posted on 07/31/2009 11:33:58 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

OOPS! His address is ltgov@hawaii.gov


3 posted on 07/31/2009 11:36:47 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

ping for later


4 posted on 07/31/2009 11:46:46 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime
Notice I added these to the original request I posted the yesterday: Who has the authority to verify that a vital record maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health satisfies the criteria that indicates that the owner of the record is a natural-born American citizen? Who has the authority to verify that a vital record maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health satisfies the criteria that indicates that the owner of the record was born in Hawai‘i? Also, please confirm that the Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, has seen the vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying The Current President of the United States was born in Hawai‘i and is a dual citizen? Also, please confirm that the Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, has seen the vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying The Current President of the United States was born in Hawai‘i and is an alien citizen?
5 posted on 07/31/2009 11:48:28 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

UIPA FOIA

You don’t think they actually mean you to use these Acts do you? You will get “STFU and go away”.


6 posted on 07/31/2009 11:49:32 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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Now..., this is definitely something that I would like to follow — for an examle of how nuts this issue is getting to be... LOL..

No..., I’m serious... I want to follow the progress of this request. Of course, it only takes one person. If an agency has to do something, then it doesn’t matter whether it’s one person asking or it’s 10,000 people asking. They have to do it for one or more than one, if that’s the case.

I’ve always seen that there is a big *disconnect* with *reality*, the way things work in real life — with people who are obsessive about this issue. This is why I want to see the “real life results” of this particular exercise... :-)

Please, by all means keep us (and *me* especially) informed and up-to-date on everything that happens with this particular exercise with the State of Hawaii... (if nothing else, it’s a good anthropological study for some graduate student... ).


7 posted on 07/31/2009 11:54:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

If they do that, you can refile the request with the Office of information and they will determine if the request is a legitimate one.

And they will have to provide you answers/judgement why it is not legitimate citing law/statute.

It would be tough to invent laws—usually that takes some time (bureaucratic red tape) to change the law to suit their needs.


8 posted on 07/31/2009 11:55:04 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

If Hawaii ignores the requests or says we have no standing, then what? Are we to all hire lawyers?

I appreciate the effort you’ve put into this, but we all know that Democrats operate by the rules that they choose to follow and not by the laws on the books.

Please post a follow-up in 10 days and let us know what the result is. I’ll send an email to Okubo but won’t expect anything in response. Unless it’s a visit from some 0bama thugs or an IRS audit.


9 posted on 07/31/2009 11:55:20 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Birther and proud of it. I want the TRUTH exposed. NOW!!! ))))
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To: Star Traveler

it’s for the PROTECTION of the little guy if everyone sends this request. Ya know? These are dangerous times we live in.

Please send it. Please.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 11:56:09 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: Two Kids' Dad

I just wrote this but will repeat it if you didn’t see it:

If they do that, you can refile the request with the Office of information and they will determine if the request is a legitimate one.

And they will have to provide you answers/judgement why it is not legitimate citing law/statute.

It would be tough to invent laws—usually that takes some time (bureaucratic red tape) to change the law to suit their needs.


11 posted on 07/31/2009 11:57:28 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Copied, pasted and sent. Preparing to be ignored by Hawai’i officials.

Good thing I’ve paid all my taxes. I’ll let you know if any ACORN or Muslim Brotherhood people pay me a visit.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 11:59:52 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Birther and proud of it. I want the TRUTH exposed. NOW!!! ))))
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To: I am Richard Brandon
The only ones I think may violate their authority/statute are these, but it doesn't hurt to ask them just the same: • Also, please send me an electronic copy of the written criteria, that must be satisfied, by which the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health determines that a person, whose vital records she has statutory authority over, is a natural-born American citizen. • Also, please confirm that the Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, has seen the vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying The Current President of the United States was born in Hawai‘i and is a dual citizen? • Also, please confirm that the Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, has seen the vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying The Current President of the United States was born in Hawai‘i and is an alien citizen?
13 posted on 07/31/2009 12:02:42 PM PDT by MissTickly
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Well..., I’m sorry, but I’m not buying the “dangerous times” in that there is some danger to an individual for sending in this kind of request. I’m not going down that track, because it’s way too crazy for me...

And secondly, if I understand this right, this is an administrative type of action and not a “political” action. That means (to me, at least) that how many request this is not relevant to the action being requested. That means that if “administratively” they are supposed to supply this information, then no matter whether one or hundreds do it, it’s going to be done (if the “understanding” of this is correct).

You’re making this out to be not an “administrative action” but to be a “political action” and therefore “the more the merrier” (as it works in political circles).

If someone does some kind of administrative request, I don’t need to add my request to it — all I have to do is wait for that other person’s request to be complied with, according to what the State is supposed to do.

You’ll have to excuse me here, but I simply don’t believe this is something that you’re ever going to see the kind of results that you want.

BUT..., I’m not going to say that I’m not interested in what you are doing...


14 posted on 07/31/2009 12:03:14 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Thank you and your two kids’ thank you, too!


15 posted on 07/31/2009 12:03:35 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

I don’t have a problem with your idea at all. I think it’s a good one. But saying the deomcrat officals “have to” follow the law is where the disconnect is for me. They’ll almost certainly stonewall and ignore for as long as possible and try to win through stubbornness and getting us to give up.

I guess we’ll see what happens in 10 days.


16 posted on 07/31/2009 12:03:55 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Birther and proud of it. I want the TRUTH exposed. NOW!!! ))))
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To: Star Traveler

I accept why you disagree with me. My poor husband has me a bit spooked about my willingness to see this through.

I prefer your attitude to mine, too.

It is an administrative request, you are right about that, too. We have every right to take advantage of these Information Acts.


17 posted on 07/31/2009 12:06:11 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: Two Kids' Dad

“But saying the deomcrat officals “have to” follow the law is where the disconnect is for me. “

Yeah, I know it is a LOOOONGshot.


18 posted on 07/31/2009 12:07:14 PM PDT by MissTickly
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You said — I accept why you disagree with me. My poor husband has me a bit spooked about my willingness to see this through.

Well, let me reassure you... there’s no physical danger to you requesting that. Heck! People make administrative requests like that, for one thing or another, all day long. I simply won’t buy into this “danger” bit...

But, let me qualify that “danger” bit a little so you’ll understand. Let’s say someone is on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list, and they stand up at a meeting and question Obama’s policies... well... I wouldn’t do it, if I were them, because someone who doesn’t like the questions, just might recognize the guy from the FBI’s 10 most wanted list... LOL...

You get the idea... don’t make yourself a target for what you can *legitimately* be hassled about .... :-) (the emphasis is on “legitimate”... if you get my meaning).

If someone has skeletons in their closet and another person doesn’t like what you’re doing, they’re liable to drag them out of the closet, but they were *your skeletons* in the first place and didn’t belong to someone else...

So, with that kind of qualifier... I wouldn’t worry too much... (and actually those state officials have too much work to do anyway, without worrying about all this other stuff and hassling people...).

Good luck, but if my “perception” of this whole thing is correct (and I think it is...) this is going nowhere. However, I will wait and see...


19 posted on 07/31/2009 12:20:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: MissTickly

i like it.


20 posted on 07/31/2009 12:28:15 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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