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A Senate of the States: July 3rd 10th, 1787
Article V Blog ^ | November 20th 2017 | Rodney Dodsworth

Posted on 11/20/2017 1:46:19 AM PST by Jacquerie

As John Locke related in his Two Treatises of Government, the legislative power is the essence of republicanism. Despite the lessons of the great Enlightenment philosophers and the Framers’ long experience in colonial and free republican affairs, they experienced much difficulty in designing a suitable, stable, effective legislature for a young and growing society. 1

Yesterday’s grand committee met to address the basis of representation in the legislature. What compromise could overcome large state objections to parity among the states in the senate? Recall that large states feared small state dominance over taxation, and that the small would disproportionately burden the large.

To placate large state concerns over taxation and appropriations, yet meet the small state demand of equal representation in the senate, the committee recommended proportional representation, one per 40,000 in the House of Representatives, and that the house originate all money bills, unamendable by the senate, on which the senate could only vote up or down. Furthermore, it endorsed equal representation among the states in the senate.

A cool reception awaited the committee report on July 5th. Large state delegates James Madison (VA) and Gouverneur Morris (PA) were willing to risk breakup of the convention over state representation in the senate. While Madison objected to equality on the basis of equal justice for each and every American, the aristocratic Morris prophesied that the small states, through reason or violence would eventually join the union on the terms of the large states. If reason was insufficient, he painted a gruesome picture of conquest, foreign intrigue and executions if the new government admitted the known virus of a federal body of states once again.

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1 posted on 11/20/2017 1:46:19 AM PST by Jacquerie
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Recessional of the Sons of the American Revolution:

“Until we meet again, let us remember our obligations to our
forefathers who gave us our Constitution, the Bill of Rights,
an independent Supreme Court and a nation of free men.”
Dr. Benjamin Franklin, when asked if we had a republic or a monarchy, replied "A Republic, if you can keep it."
Can we???

2 posted on 11/20/2017 2:08:09 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: Jacquerie

The Founders and original citizens were the same natural kind. How could this be maintained....Article 1 Section....

“Uniform rule of naturalization” The first naturalization act...maintained the same natural kind...kindred blood.

After WBTS the Congress illegally unnaturalized the country.

3 posted on 11/20/2017 4:05:15 AM PST by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

What is WBTS?

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War Between the States image Naturalization and natural born are same kindred...
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