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HARRISON FORD RADIO MISSTEPS ON TAKEOFF Before Botched Taxiway Landing
tmz ^ | 2/17/17 | tmz

Posted on 02/17/2017 7:57:21 AM PST by RummyChick

Harrison Ford didn't sound like a seasoned pilot of more than 20 years when he stammered through radio calls to the tower ... minutes before his screwed up landing on a taxiway.

TMZ has obtained audio of Harrison's convo with air traffic control as he took off from Santa Monica Airport at 11:49 AM on Feb. 13, and he sounds confused. The SMO tower sends him off with his tail number -- "Husky Niner Hotel Uniform" -- and gives him a personal code (squawk) of 0214 ... his identifying code for air traffic control. All good up to that point.

The trouble starts when Harrison radios back saying he's in a helicopter. He stutters a few times trying to correct his mistake and then throws out his tail number. The bigger problem is he's still talking to SMO tower, which had already turned over to another tower. The controller tells Harrison he's on the wrong frequency, and reminds him he should be communicating with the other tower. Our pilot sources say, on their own, these mistakes would be no big deal. But the FAA might be interested in these because of how his landing went roughly 18 minutes later in Orange County.


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1 posted on 02/17/2017 7:57:21 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Ground him, he’s going to kill him self and a whole host of innocent people.


2 posted on 02/17/2017 8:01:04 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God did help the Republic, can we keep it.)
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To: RummyChick

For starters, I guarantee he was required to pee in a cup at John Wayne after the mishap, upon further review I would bet they PULLED his Ticket for 30 days ON THE SPOT.

His Flying Days are OVER


3 posted on 02/17/2017 8:03:00 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: RummyChick

Yikes. This is as dangerous as when Mom insists she can still drive on the freeway. Age is cruel. They need to take his license.


4 posted on 02/17/2017 8:03:57 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Empireoftheatom48

He was pictured checking out a helicopter on Sunday.

So yes, sounds confused.

He was piloting a jet this week.


5 posted on 02/17/2017 8:04:06 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: eyeamok

Nope. He was pictured in a jet this week.


6 posted on 02/17/2017 8:04:40 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Apparently Dementia is setting in. Very sad, the man is an internationally beloved star, and curtailing him from flying and driving is going to be very hard for his wife and loved ones. Even harder then with others because of the whole rich and famous thing.

If the FAA have grounded him pending medical evaluation for Orange County, and then if he gets grounded, remember that if you have dementia you won’t remember or care, and if left alone he can get to his planes and fly anyway. Or try to. Or drive. It’s going to be a whole different life for him. I feel for all of them.


7 posted on 02/17/2017 8:05:16 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: RummyChick

Alzheimer’s?


8 posted on 02/17/2017 8:05:41 AM PST by rejoicing
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To: RummyChick
http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/16/harrison-ford-flying-jet-photos/




has a co-pilot in this one

9 posted on 02/17/2017 8:06:31 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: rejoicing

He may even have had a stroke.


10 posted on 02/17/2017 8:07:30 AM PST by sarasota
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To: RummyChick
http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/15/harrison-ford-faa-investigation-delayed/

Harrison Ford will not know his flying fate for weeks and maybe a lot longer. TMZ has confirmed ... Ford landed on a taxiway Monday at John Wayne Airport in Orange County, thinking it was the proper runway. Sources familiar with the situation tell us ... the situation does not pose "an immediate danger" and the FAA is routinely investigating. As we reported, Ford flew over an American Airlines Boeing 737 that was on the taxiway before touching down. He seemed confused, asking the tower, "Was that airliner meant to be underneath me?" If Ford thought he was landing on an active runway, we're told standard procedure would be to abort because the other aircraft could well be preparing for takeoff and could slam into the smaller plane.

The weather conditions were partly cloudy at the time 74-year-old Ford landed, but he could definitely see the runway and taxiway. By the way, the taxiway is unmarked, in sharp contrast to the runway. Ford just passed a pilot's medical exam last month. People at various airports tell us Ford is an excellent and careful pilot.
11 posted on 02/17/2017 8:08:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Ford has my complete sympathy.
I absolutely doubt he could have been on illegal drugs or alcohol, although prescribed medications may be in play.

If that is not the case, the only other explanation is that he may be having "aging" issues, in which case his flying days may indeed be over.

Best wishes to one of the rare Hollywood normal and admired actors.

12 posted on 02/17/2017 8:12:24 AM PST by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: RummyChick

Harry probably needs grounding or a copilot. Maybe he can invest in a high dollar simulator. It happens to every pilot. He’s become a danger to others.


13 posted on 02/17/2017 8:13:57 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Yaelle; flaglady47; Maine Mariner; pax_et_bonum; Seattle Conservative
Yep, your correct, Yaelle.

It appears that what they call "early dementia" may be setting in.

Ford will be 75 next birthday. His net worth is approx $200 million.

What is he still trying to prove? He should take his $$$s to Las Vegas and take his chancy chances there instead of flying directly over the homes of his area's populace.

Leni

14 posted on 02/17/2017 8:14:21 AM PST by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!......GO PENCE !!!......Boycott Starbucks and Target !!!)
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To: RummyChick

See: https://www.airnav.com/airport/KSNA


15 posted on 02/17/2017 8:14:38 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

He can afford an instructor pilot every time he goes up.


16 posted on 02/17/2017 8:15:50 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: RummyChick

Really??? I need to call my Instructor who is the FAA Examiner around here to find out for sure.


17 posted on 02/17/2017 8:17:12 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: RummyChick
....with his tail number -- "Husky Niner Hotel Uniform" -- and gives him a personal code (squawk) of 0214 ... his identifying code for air traffic control. All good up to that point. Not exactly. He must have been confused already at that point -- should have been "Hotel", not "Husky".
18 posted on 02/17/2017 8:17:38 AM PST by expat2
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

He has a copilot in the jet. If his wife can’t get him to stop this may be her solution.

I doubt she will be able to get him to stop..especially if dementia is setting in..


19 posted on 02/17/2017 8:19:06 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: publius911

illegal drugs

There is NO SUCH THING as a “Legal” drug while piloting an aircraft, regardless of prescription or not, they are all ILLEGAL WHILE FLYING!!!


20 posted on 02/17/2017 8:19:36 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: RummyChick

Sounds like he’s too old to be flying anymore.


21 posted on 02/17/2017 8:20:01 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RummyChick

Sounds like they need to keep the old dear out of the cockpit.


22 posted on 02/17/2017 8:20:58 AM PST by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: expat2

the aircraft type was Husky — Aviat Husky. Call sounds correct.

Hoss


23 posted on 02/17/2017 8:21:40 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: TADSLOS
He can afford an instructor pilot every time he goes up.

His decision should be easy at this point. His flying days as pilot in command may be over, but once he hires an experienced pilot permanently, for any and all future flights, he can fly in the right seat all he wants.

Beats Southern California traffic...

24 posted on 02/17/2017 8:24:16 AM PST by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: RummyChick

25 posted on 02/17/2017 8:26:55 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: expat2

Husky is the aircraft model he was flying. It’s like saying “Baron Niner November Sierra” or “Piper One Two Able.”


26 posted on 02/17/2017 8:28:28 AM PST by IronJack
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To: publius911

Bingo.


27 posted on 02/17/2017 8:34:50 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: eyeamok

I love visiting the Lyon Air Museum at John Wayne Int’l when I’m in OC. A great bunch of vets and old timers there. Lots of great stories.


28 posted on 02/17/2017 8:35:55 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Good judgement comes from experience. And experience? Well, that comes from poor judgement.)
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To: eyeamok
There is NO SUCH THING as a “Legal” drug while piloting an aircraft, regardless of prescription or not, they are all ILLEGAL WHILE FLYING!!!

Lighten up, amok.

Sounding like a hysterical know-it-all and making absolute statements displays a state of mind that is scary. I hope you're not a pilot.

I was prescribed aspirin for a few years. I seriously doubt that qualifies, with or without exclamation points. Nor can it be the only one.

29 posted on 02/17/2017 8:36:37 AM PST by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: expat2
Not exactly. He must have been confused already at that point -- should have been "Hotel", not "Husky".

I'm not a pilot, and know nothing about tail number protocol, but could that "Husky" be a mistake regarding audio and who is listening? Could it possibly have been "Whiskey"?

30 posted on 02/17/2017 8:36:40 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: IYAS9YAS; expat2
Could it possibly have been "Whiskey"?

Never mind. I see it's been cleared up in subsequent posts. It's the aircraft type...

I should have read further before asking.

31 posted on 02/17/2017 8:38:50 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: publius911

Seems to me with an instructor you would be good for either seat.


32 posted on 02/17/2017 8:40:14 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: RummyChick
"The trouble starts when Harrison radios back saying he's in a helicopter. He stutters a few times trying to correct his mistake and then throws out his tail number. [snip] Our pilot sources say, on their own, these mistakes would be no big deal."

No big deal? Telling ATC that you're in a HELICOPTER, when you're piloting a small, single engine fixed-wing?

And he then lands on a taxiway?

I have no axe to grind with Harrison Ford, but it's pretty clear to me that he doesn't belong in the left seat of any aircraft at this point.

It'll be interesting to see if he gets the predictable 'star treatment' on this...

33 posted on 02/17/2017 8:41:14 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: publius911

Aspirin is Ok most of the time, Sudafed used to be BANNED but was changed to acceptable 15 years or so ago.

Like I said, MOST Drugs regardless of Legality are Prohibited while Flying,

And Yes I am an IFR rated Pilot for 30 years

FAA Policy

The Federal Aviation Regulations include no specific references to medication usage. FAR 61.53 prohibits acting as pilot-in-command or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while that person:

Knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make the person unable to meet the requirement for the medical certificate necessary for the pilot operation, or:
Is taking medication or receiving other treatment for a medical condition that results in the person being unable to meet the requirements for the medical certificate necessary for the pilot operation.

Further, FAR 91.17 prohibits the use of “any drug that affects the persons faculties in any way contrary to safety.”

The FAA generally disallows certain types of drugs that are continuously used for treatment. These include, but aren’t limited to, anticoagulants, antiviral agents, anxiolytics (anti-anxiety), barbiturates, chemotherapeutic agents, experimental, hypoglycemic, investigational, mood altering, motion sickness, narcotic, sedating, antihistaminic, steroids, or tranquilizers.

However, there is no official FAA “list” of drugs that is available to the public. Because FAR 91.17 doesn’t include the names of the prohibited drugs, there is no requirement that the drugs being taken be made known to the FAA prior to completing an FAA airman medical application and physical examination. There are several thousand controlled prescription drugs currently approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. This doesn’t include OTC (over the counter) drugs. Virtually all drugs have the potential to cause adverse side effects in some people. That’s one reason why so many medications carry the generic warning to avoid operating heavy machinery or motor vehicles while using the drug. These warnings pose obviously greater significance for flying. While some individuals experience no side effects with a particular drug, others may be noticeably affected. Since each person’s response is different, the FAA has to consider the worst possible reaction to a drug in evaluating the decision to allow flight duties.
Risks of medication usage

Drugs that cause no apparent side effects on the ground can create serious problems with only moderate increases in altitude. Even for general aviation pilots flying at relatively low altitudes, the changes in concentrations of atmospheric gases, including oxygen and nitrogen, in the blood can enhance the effects of seemingly innocuous drugs and result in impaired judgment, decision-making, and performance.

Remember, too, that medication usage is part of a two-sided coin. Medications are prescribed to treat a medical condition and the condition itself may be considered disqualifying with or without medication usage.

Some of the most commonly used OTC drugs, antihistamines and decongestants, have the potential to cause some of the most noticeable side effects and may well be disqualifying as a result. The symptoms associated with common upper respiratory infections, even a bad cold, will usually suppress a pilot’s desire to fly, and treating symptoms with a drug that causes side effects only compounds the problem. Allegra (fexofenadine), Claritin (loratidine) and Hismanol (astemizole) are noted to be non-sedating and are allowed by the FAA, even though you still might not be legal under FAR 61.53. Remember, a bad head cold may be a “medical deficiency” under the regulations.

For other pulmonary conditions such as asthma, the FAA approves the use of inhalers, including Proventil, Azmacort, Becanase, or Vancenase, on a case-by-case basis, based on a review of the history of symptoms.

Many antihypertensive and cardiac drugs may also be allowed, case-by-case. For blood pressure control, five categories of medications are acceptable: angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitors (ACE) inhibitors, beta adrenergic blocking agents, calcium channel blockers, alpha-adrenergic blocking agents, and diuretics encompass about 60 different acceptable medications. Other cardiac drugs, such as antiarrhythmics, may also be approved, based on the condition for which the medications are prescribed. Agents used to control angina (chest pain) called nitrates, including nitroglycerine, are not permitted.

Any drug that produces drowsiness or other central nervous system effects and experimental or investigational drugs are prohibited. These medications include narcotic analgesics, stimulants, sedatives, hypnotics, amphetamines, barbiturates, anti-anxiety drugs, muscle relaxants, tranquilizers, and antipsychotics (neuroleptics). Among the drugs classified as stimulants is Ritalin, which is used to treat attention deficit disorder (ADD). Lithium carbonate, used to treat certain types of depressive disorders, may be allowed after careful case evaluation.

All antidepressants, including the newer generation of selective serotonin reuptake inhibiting (SSRI) medications, such as Paxil, Prozac, Effexor, Celexa, and Zoloft, are currently disqualifying, regardless of the reason for their use. These medications are often prescribed for “off label” use, that is, they are treating symptoms other than those for which the Food and Drug Administration approved the medication. Again, the underlying symptoms and diagnosis may be disqualifying, and the use of an antidepressant medication compounds the situation.

Anticonvulsants, including phenytoin (Dilantin) and carbamazepine (Tegretol) are disqualifying because of the specific medical history that may include a prior seizure, seizure-like event, or risk of seizure. Although these drugs minimize the possibility of a seizure recurrence, their usage does not absolutely preclude another event.
AOPA’s medication database

Find out the FAA’s position on medications in this database compiled by the AOPA Pilot Information Center. The status of some medications changes from time to time so check back periodically. The database information is verified with the FAA Aerospace Medical Certification Division in Oklahoma City.

If you do not see a particular medication in the database, please call the AOPA Pilot Information Center, 800/USA-AOPA (872-2672), and speak with one of the medical certification specialists . For a more in-depth review of your medical records, consider enrolling in AOPA’s Pilot Protection Services program.


34 posted on 02/17/2017 8:49:14 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: RummyChick

35 posted on 02/17/2017 8:56:53 AM PST by moovova
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To: RummyChick

They should do a drug test on him. Wonder if that distant far away look is cannabis induced.


36 posted on 02/17/2017 9:04:33 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: MinuteGal

Omg, Leni, he is still flying! At least he had a copilot yesterday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4232078/Harrison-Ford-completely-misjudged-runway.html


37 posted on 02/17/2017 9:14:19 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: MinuteGal

Oh baloney. Love these dementia diagnosis from the peanut gallery. I guess every 40 year old who calls a kid by the wrong name, forgets an appointment, or leaves the coffee on top of their car must now have “dementia”.

What it most likely is, is someone very experienced who made a mistake through excess familiarity. He will get a medical review, a short suspension, some mandatory training time and another check ride. That’s it.


38 posted on 02/17/2017 9:31:42 AM PST by DesertRhino
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To: RummyChick

“convo”

I hate hipster abbreviations. “Spox” is another one.

Is it really too time consuming to spell out the whole word?

And yeah, Harrison Ford needs to park it. He’s obviously losing his piloting skills.


39 posted on 02/17/2017 9:34:39 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: expat2

Sorry but you are wrong, - “Husky Niner Hotel Uniform” —
Husky is the aircraft manufacturer, Niner Hotel Uniform is part of his N number: 9HU


40 posted on 02/17/2017 9:55:25 AM PST by 9422WMR (President Trump, I like the sound of that!)
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To: RummyChick

He should not fly Solo.


41 posted on 02/17/2017 10:06:59 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Have you driven a Ford . . . lately?)
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To: RummyChick

The runway is the one with the big numbers at each end.


42 posted on 02/17/2017 10:16:08 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: VTenigma
No wonder he got confused....


43 posted on 02/17/2017 10:18:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: moovova

This is not the Han Solo you are looking for.


44 posted on 02/17/2017 10:31:41 AM PST by proudpapa (Trump Pence earned it.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Haha


45 posted on 02/17/2017 10:47:01 AM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I love visiting the Lyon Air Museum at John Wayne Int’l when I’m in OC. A great bunch of vets and old timers there. Lots of great stories.
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Airport with three names, Orange Cty, John Wayne and Santa Ana. :<)))


46 posted on 02/17/2017 11:31:33 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: RummyChick

Harrison Ford suffered a head injury in the golf course emergency crash landing two years ago.

Head injuries at any age are statistically correlated to cognitive impairment, especially head injuries sustained later in life.

Howard Hughes had multiple head injuries from multiple plane crashes.

Reagan had head trauma after the assassination attempt when his head smacked the limousine roof as he was pushed into the back seat, plus, anesthesia for two major surgeries (bullet and colon cancer), plus, shortly after his term ended, he fell from a horse at his ranch and sustained a concussion.

Harrison Ford was also under general anesthesia after his severe leg injury on the Star Wars set a couple years back.


47 posted on 02/17/2017 11:55:32 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: DesertRhino

Applause!! Love you answer!


48 posted on 02/17/2017 11:56:23 AM PST by freepertoo
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