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Unseemly haste in pulling the plug
National Post ^ | November 14, 2003 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/18/2003 12:23:17 AM PST by NYer

In the current battle over whether to remove the feeding tube from Florida woman Terri Schiavo, the basic positions are:

- She is in a permanent vegetative state; no she's not.

- She is unconscious and does not react to stimuli; yes she does.

- She will never get any better; yes she will.

- She would not have wanted to be kept on a feeding tube; you don't know that.

The only thing everyone seems to agree on is that the husband is creepy. Terri's parents are fighting like mad to keep Terri alive. The husband, Michael Schiavo, is living with another woman with whom he has one child and is expecting another. Yet he has mounted a monumental crusade to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

Terri is not brain-dead and requires no extraordinary means to be kept alive. She is breathing, her heart is pumping, her organs are functioning. All she needs is food and water. (Of course, all three are technically true of Kate Moss, too.) But her husband wants to starve her to death. As Larry King asked him, why not "walk away"?

That is the eternal mystery of this case. Assuming everything Michael says about Terri is true -- she has no consciousness, she will never recover and she would not want to live with feeding tubes -- well, then, she's not in pain, bored, angry or upset. Why is Michael Schiavo so obsessed with pulling Terri's feeding tube? Why can't he just walk away?

Michael's answer to Larry King was this: "Why should I, Larry? This is Terri's wish. This is Terri's choice." As King pointed out, Terri's alleged "wish" was not memorialized anywhere in writing, only in Michael's memory. Michael responded to this point by invoking the courts: "It's been decided for six years of litigation that this was Terri's wish."

I note that "six years of litigation" is not enough to end the lives of child-molesting serial killers on death row in the United States. The same people who want to kill Terri believe death row cases are never final, no matter how many courts and juries have spoken over how many decades.

Moreover, it's not as if court after court has heard testimony on Terri's wishes and have all unanimously agreed that Terri would have chosen death. One lone Florida circuit court judge, George Greer, credited Michael's testimony, finding "clear and convincing" evidence that Terri said she would not want to be kept alive on feeding tubes. Because Judge Greer was acting as the finder of fact, his finding is essentially unreviewable by any other court.

Judge Greer's finding on Terri's wishes may be immune from legal review, but it's not immune from criticism. He's a finder of fact; he's not God. A few years ago, Judge Greer found that Helene Ball McGee did not have reasonable cause to believe domestic violence was imminent and denied her an order of protection. Two weeks later, Mrs. McGee was stabbed to death by her husband. So judges can make mistakes.

Judge Greer's pivotal "finding of fact" in the Schiavo case determining a life-or-death issue is based on something Terri allegedly said after watching a TV show. Michael didn't know his wife was bulimic, but he distinctly remembered Terri's remarks about a TV show. (It was an episode of Melrose Place, during which she said that Heather Locklear's shoes were "to die for.")

After watching Bambi, I'm against deer hunting. Then I go out the next day and order venison. Maybe we could have a higher standard of proof before the government orders a woman to die.

Despite Michael's insistence that he has a vivid memory of Terri expressing her wishes regarding death, note this exchange on Larry King Live:

KING: I have a 35-year-old daughter. I've never asked her this question. I don't know if she has a living will. I hope she does. But if she doesn't, I don't know the answer to the question. Because most 35-year-olds, I guess, don't talk about it.

SCHIAVO: Nobody talks about death, Larry.

Michael apparently forgot to add -- except for that one night I remember so clearly, Larry, when my wife, Terri, talked to me about death and expressed her firmly held desire not to be kept alive on a feeding tube.

As even The New York Times admits, Michael did not recall Terri's clearly stated desire to be taken off life support until after the million-dollar settlement was paid, most of it going for Terri's medical costs -- and the remainder to her husband.

What offhand comments might Terri have made if she had read in The Baltimore Sun about Rod Brandner, who indicated that he was coming out of a coma by squeezing his son's hand in response to questions less than two hours before his life support system was to be turned off?

Or what if she had read the Associated Press news story on Chris Trickle, who lost 5% of his brain when he was shot in the head, but later came out of a nine-month coma to breathe on his own, eat three meals a day and tell his girlfriend he loved her?

What offhand remarks might Terri have made after reading about Terry Wallis, the Arkansas man who just last summer awoke from a 19-year coma?

(Note for the record: I want heroic measures taken to keep me alive, and I demand the immediate arrest of anyone trying to remove my life support.)

In the absence of a living will, I would think the courts ought to be erring on the side of life. But short of that, couldn't we at least all agree that the courts should not defer to the pull-the-plug demands from anyone who:

(1) expresses an unseemly enthusiasm for another person's death;

(2) was the only person present when the incident leading to the persistent vegetative state occurred;

(3) stands to make money off the person's death; or

(4) is wearing a "W.W.C.V.B.D.?" (what would Claus von Bulow do?) bracelet?


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; schiavo
"A few years ago, Judge Greer found that Helene Ball McGee did not have reasonable cause to believe domestic violence was imminent and denied her an order of protection. Two weeks later, Mrs. McGee was stabbed to death by her husband. So judges can make mistakes."
1 posted on 11/18/2003 12:23:17 AM PST by NYer
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To: luv2lurkhere; Budge; floriduh voter; summer; Coleus; amom; ruoflaw; submarine; cpforlife.org; ...
The same people who want to kill Terri believe death row cases are never final, no matter how many courts and juries have spoken over how many decades.

This post is looking familiar but did not turn up on a title search. Apologies if it is a duplicate.

TERRI SCHIAVO PING! – let me know if you want on/off this ping list


2 posted on 11/18/2003 12:27:25 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
Inteesting about Helene and the judge. Great article, lots of good points. Ann Coulter BUMP
3 posted on 11/18/2003 12:29:39 AM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: NYer
D_mn Canadians - changing titles on you!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1021504/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1021210/posts
4 posted on 11/18/2003 12:48:33 AM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: NYer
November 17th HANNITY & COLMES transcript added.

"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"

"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"

"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> author Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"

"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"

"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":

"Hardball with with Chris Matthews" - Wednesday 10-29-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney for ACLJ) Jay Sekulow and (anti-Terri attorney) Joe Tacopina: "Matthews: I think the human issue here is... her eyes flickering... I think she's ALIVE":

"Larry King Live" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (husband) Michael Schiavo[barf alert]: THEY get money from the right wing ACTIVISTS - "Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die" - [later] King: Would you take one[lie detector test]? - No

"The Abrams Report" - Monday 11-03-03 --> (Commentary) almost entirely pro-husband

"O'Reilly Factor" - Wednesday 11-05-03 --> (former "Vegetative State" patient) Kate Adamson: Being starved to death is EXTREMELY painful "It was SHEER torture!" - took her THREE MONTHS of ACUTE REHAB to snap out
Her website says: We stand behind Terri Schindler!

"The Abrams Report" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney) Pat Anderson and (pro-death attorney) George Felos: "Felos: Michael is a MODEL husband" - Anderson:"Terri got NO REHAB after $award$":

"On the Record with Greta" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and followed by a panel discussion:
"Connor: INDEPENDENTLY investigate the circumstances and allegations...
Alred: Perhaps the PARENTS SHOULD care for her


"Radio Interview" --> (Michael Schiavo's so-called 1st girlfriend after Terri's so-called 'collapse')
MS: "[Terri] upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault."
GIRLFRIEND: "he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!"


"CBS News Sunday Morning" - Sunday 11-09-03 -->
( Lead-off feature story for this Sunday morning news magazine )

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 11-17-03 --> (Terri's parents) Mary and Bob Schindler:
"ACQUIRED CEREBRAL PALSY" ... "she's been literally in PRISON for FOUR years"







Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign
      "Where there's life, there's hope."
      -Terri Schiavo ( arguing with her best friend Diane Meyer ) angrily PROMOTING LIFE FOR the comatose
-Kate Adamson ( former vegetative patient nearly starved to death ) "Its VERY painful... Its SHEER torture!"

-Michael Schiavo (teaching Terri she can NEVER DIVORCE him) minutes before her 'collapse'
-Michael's 1993 girlfriend ("he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!")
-link to latest TV coverage/interviews           Contact FoxNews


5 posted on 11/18/2003 2:32:59 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: NYer; axel f; batmast; boxerblues; churchillbuff; dead; doug from upland; ElkGroveDan; ...
W.W.C.V.B.D

"...Judge Greer found that Helene Ball McGee did not have reasonable cause to believe domestic violence was imminent and denied her an order of protection. Two weeks later, Mrs. McGee was stabbed to death by her husband..."

Judge oGree

6 posted on 11/18/2003 2:44:21 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: areafiftyone; etcetera; ArrogantBustard; baseballmom; Bayou City; Brett66; bruinbirdman; ...
Florida State University - Humanities 101

If you damage a fertilized sea turtle egg, you are called a "FELON" and given a $10,000 fine.

But if you deliberately kill a beautiful 39 year old woman,
* who smiles at her parents,
* who tracks people around the room,
* who laughs at her father's jokes,
* who CAN swallow, but is NOT ALLOWED to be fed by spoon,
* who can sometimes say small words, and at times tries her best to reply,
* who cries when she sees her parents are leaving,
* who sits up in a chair during the day, and signals to her caregivers when she is tired and ready for bed,
* ...
...... If you deliberately KILL HER, you are called "YOUR HONOR" and paid $150,000 per year.


7 posted on 11/18/2003 3:50:30 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: NYer
The only thing everyone seems to agree on is that the husband is creepy.

Nope

8 posted on 11/18/2003 3:54:16 AM PST by Brandon
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To: NYer
It's already been noted by vigilant FReepers that this is a repost (under a new Canadian title).

But anything written by Ann Coulter is worth a second, third, fourth, nth repost.

9 posted on 11/18/2003 5:30:22 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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