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Minister Elon asks Christians to convert Muslims
Jerusalem Post ^ | Feb. 8, 2004 | Yaakov Katz

Posted on 02/08/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by Alouette

Tourism Minister Benny Elon (National Union) asked Christian Missionary groups last week to work to convert Muslims to Christianity in order "to show them the light".

According to a report in the Ma'ariv daily, Elon told the Christians that Israel would not accept any missionary attempts to convert Jews but suggested that they turn their attention to Muslims.

"Go from mosque to mosque and bring the Muslims into the light," Elon said.

Elon's media advisor Sagiv Rottenberg told the Jerusalem Post that the minister was not referring to all of the Muslims but only asked the missionaries to convert "those who preach to murder and carry out suicide attacks."

"If everyone understands that the Jewish people who have returned to their land are not Colonialists but are people who are fulfilling what is written in the Bible then things will be different," Elon told Israel Radio on Sunday. "When you speak with a Muslim who murders and fanatically believes that our religion lies and that the Bible does not serve as a basis since he doesn't accept the Bible and believes that it is full of lies then it is difficult to speak with him. But when you come to a Christian even if he is hostile there is still a basis for mutual dialogue."

MK Ahmed Tibi (Hadash) told the Post that Elon's conversion initiative is an "illusionary plan" which is anti-Islam and an expression of racism.

"The plan represents the ideology of those people who believe that they can control another nation while at the same time enjoying peace and security," Tibi said. "A new movement is rising opposite anti-Semitism by the name of Islamaphobia."

Elon is scheduled to travel next week to Charlotte, North Carolina for the National Religious Broadcasters annual convention where a demonstration against Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plan to remove Jewish settlements from the Gaza Strip is scheduled to take place.


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1 posted on 02/08/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by Alouette
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2 posted on 02/08/2004 7:01:00 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Alouette
Elon's media advisor Sagiv Rottenberg told the Jerusalem Post that the minister was not referring to all of the Muslims but only asked the missionaries to convert "those who preach to murder and carry out suicide attacks."

This is a strange article. Obviously, I think, the Israeli minister of tourism doesn't have to lecture Christians on how to convert people. I don't either, but I would think that those who hate murder would be more realistic possible converts than those who preach it.

3 posted on 02/08/2004 7:05:45 AM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Alouette
Verrrry odd request...
4 posted on 02/08/2004 7:07:11 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Alouette
Elon's media advisor Sagiv Rottenberg told the Jerusalem Post that the minister was not referring to all of the Muslims but only asked the missionaries to convert "those who preach to murder and carry out suicide attacks."

Oy vey! This you would do to Christians?!

"Jesus loves you, Abdull....(kaboom!).

5 posted on 02/08/2004 7:11:22 AM PST by xJones
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To: Alouette
If successful, would certainly reduce the number of homicide bombers.
6 posted on 02/08/2004 7:12:05 AM PST by miltonim
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To: Alouette
I don't see Muslims as being any more receptive to Jesus than Jews are. Is this related to Mel Gibson's movie "Passion", which is about to debut, I wonder?
7 posted on 02/08/2004 7:17:30 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough
If we are serious about ending Moslem terrorism, we must liberate Moslems. Any nation where people are not free to join any religion they desire (and those are overwhelmingly Moslem) is unfree in a very dangerous way.
8 posted on 02/08/2004 7:22:05 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Alouette
Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question.
9 posted on 02/08/2004 7:26:52 AM PST by Piranha
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To: Alouette
Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question.
10 posted on 02/08/2004 7:27:07 AM PST by Piranha
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To: Alouette
Forgive me for giggling at the irony of all this.
11 posted on 02/08/2004 7:33:14 AM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: Piranha
Very few, and many of those have been murdered. It would appear that Seventh-day Adventists are one of the few groups to have long had any organized attempt to reach Muslims for Christ. I believe Southern Baptists are doing something just since 9-11.

I saw about 2 yrs ago on an Adventist website that, IIRC, three of their ministers had been murdered by Muslims in the USA alone for converting Muslims to Christianity.

Now, I think this is a very good idea; I have been saying for a year now that Iraq is such a mess that only one man could save it, and that is Jesus Christ.

But Muslims lack both the gentleness and civility and civilization, to have much appreciation for what such a [to them] insipid and wimpy religion of kindness might have to offer. They would also be murdered in a heartbeat, even by their own parents and relatives, if they became Christian. Thus only a very tiny handful of converts exists.

Since Christians believe that it was Satan who spoke to Muhammad and posed as "Allah," by reciting the Shehada a Muslim puts himself into Satan's reserves, and Satan can call on him, and pull his chain at any time even if he had appeared "moderate" up until then.

As for Jews, on the other hand, for one thing they invented Christianity, and all of its founders were Jewish and a majority of its members were Jewish for some 300 to 500 years after its founding. It is the survival into our times of Essene Judaism of antiquity, just as Rabbinic Judaism of today is the survival of Pharisee Judaism of antiquity. Sadducee Judaism of antiquity seems to have died out IMHO.

I saw a statistic a couple of years ago that in America alone, 700,000 persons are alive today who qualify legally as Jews by Halakha, but have accepted baptism into Christianity, mostly into the more leading mainstream Protestant churches. Many of those are Jewish men who married Christian wives.

This is just why Elon and other Jews are always SO hypersensitive lest Christians would convert from among them--- Christianity is SO, SO attractive to the Jewish mind, how could it be otherwise, that is who made it.
12 posted on 02/08/2004 7:40:02 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: Piranha
Yes, there are.

I don't have any internet links for you, but for many years there was an outstanding middle eastern Christian brother who maintained a booth in the Cleveland airport with literature with the intent of reaching Muslims for Christ. I had many good discussions with the man back in the day when I was still driving jets.

I hope the Lord has prospered his efforts.
13 posted on 02/08/2004 7:41:02 AM PST by applemac_g4
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"Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question."

Sure there are. In many different forms, by many different organizations, in many different venues. We had a well known Lebanese Arab Christian talk at our church once, whose ministry is based in Lebanon. I don't recall his name. In fact, I was listening to him being interviewed on the radio a few weeks back. First time I'd heard from him in years.

The "War on Terror" is a religious and cultural war; Israel, America, and "The West" and our Judeo/Christian foundational beliefs at war with Islam and the Arab countries of the Middle East—and beyond. Therefore, it is essentially a "War of Ideas" which will be, ostensibly, won in the intellectual and cultural/religious arenas.

For the reader who respects the prophetic reliability of the Tanakh (the Old Testament) and the Revelation, though, we don't seem to achieve, um, much success.

Not that we shouldn't still try, as mandated, mind you. He is still faithful.




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15 posted on 02/08/2004 8:08:14 AM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Ashkenazy
With respect to our own times, I must give you back your "what utter nonsense."

Where in the last five hundred years, has anyone at all, and particularly Jews, been "forced" to convert to Christianity.

So silly. So hypersensitive.

Yet as I said, many Jews HAVE in our own times in fact converted to Christianity, and I agree it might ultimately be a threat to the survival of [Rabbinic] Judaism, someday, if things went on. But this is their own voluntary choice, absurd to drag in medieval history at this point.
17 posted on 02/08/2004 8:10:13 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: Alouette
Well of course attempting to convert whoever is willing to listen is a required part of the Christian religion.

Hats off to Christians who try it in Muslim lands where they might be killed for it!

18 posted on 02/08/2004 8:13:38 AM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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