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Minister Elon asks Christians to convert Muslims
Jerusalem Post ^ | Feb. 8, 2004 | Yaakov Katz

Posted on 02/08/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by Alouette

Tourism Minister Benny Elon (National Union) asked Christian Missionary groups last week to work to convert Muslims to Christianity in order "to show them the light".

According to a report in the Ma'ariv daily, Elon told the Christians that Israel would not accept any missionary attempts to convert Jews but suggested that they turn their attention to Muslims.

"Go from mosque to mosque and bring the Muslims into the light," Elon said.

Elon's media advisor Sagiv Rottenberg told the Jerusalem Post that the minister was not referring to all of the Muslims but only asked the missionaries to convert "those who preach to murder and carry out suicide attacks."

"If everyone understands that the Jewish people who have returned to their land are not Colonialists but are people who are fulfilling what is written in the Bible then things will be different," Elon told Israel Radio on Sunday. "When you speak with a Muslim who murders and fanatically believes that our religion lies and that the Bible does not serve as a basis since he doesn't accept the Bible and believes that it is full of lies then it is difficult to speak with him. But when you come to a Christian even if he is hostile there is still a basis for mutual dialogue."

MK Ahmed Tibi (Hadash) told the Post that Elon's conversion initiative is an "illusionary plan" which is anti-Islam and an expression of racism.

"The plan represents the ideology of those people who believe that they can control another nation while at the same time enjoying peace and security," Tibi said. "A new movement is rising opposite anti-Semitism by the name of Islamaphobia."

Elon is scheduled to travel next week to Charlotte, North Carolina for the National Religious Broadcasters annual convention where a demonstration against Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's plan to remove Jewish settlements from the Gaza Strip is scheduled to take place.


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1 posted on 02/08/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by Alouette
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2 posted on 02/08/2004 7:01:00 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Alouette
Elon's media advisor Sagiv Rottenberg told the Jerusalem Post that the minister was not referring to all of the Muslims but only asked the missionaries to convert "those who preach to murder and carry out suicide attacks."

This is a strange article. Obviously, I think, the Israeli minister of tourism doesn't have to lecture Christians on how to convert people. I don't either, but I would think that those who hate murder would be more realistic possible converts than those who preach it.

3 posted on 02/08/2004 7:05:45 AM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Alouette
Verrrry odd request...
4 posted on 02/08/2004 7:07:11 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Alouette
Elon's media advisor Sagiv Rottenberg told the Jerusalem Post that the minister was not referring to all of the Muslims but only asked the missionaries to convert "those who preach to murder and carry out suicide attacks."

Oy vey! This you would do to Christians?!

"Jesus loves you, Abdull....(kaboom!).

5 posted on 02/08/2004 7:11:22 AM PST by xJones
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To: Alouette
If successful, would certainly reduce the number of homicide bombers.
6 posted on 02/08/2004 7:12:05 AM PST by miltonim
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To: Alouette
I don't see Muslims as being any more receptive to Jesus than Jews are. Is this related to Mel Gibson's movie "Passion", which is about to debut, I wonder?
7 posted on 02/08/2004 7:17:30 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough
If we are serious about ending Moslem terrorism, we must liberate Moslems. Any nation where people are not free to join any religion they desire (and those are overwhelmingly Moslem) is unfree in a very dangerous way.
8 posted on 02/08/2004 7:22:05 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Alouette
Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question.
9 posted on 02/08/2004 7:26:52 AM PST by Piranha
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To: Alouette
Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question.
10 posted on 02/08/2004 7:27:07 AM PST by Piranha
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To: Alouette
Forgive me for giggling at the irony of all this.
11 posted on 02/08/2004 7:33:14 AM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (The more things change...)
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To: Piranha
Very few, and many of those have been murdered. It would appear that Seventh-day Adventists are one of the few groups to have long had any organized attempt to reach Muslims for Christ. I believe Southern Baptists are doing something just since 9-11.

I saw about 2 yrs ago on an Adventist website that, IIRC, three of their ministers had been murdered by Muslims in the USA alone for converting Muslims to Christianity.

Now, I think this is a very good idea; I have been saying for a year now that Iraq is such a mess that only one man could save it, and that is Jesus Christ.

But Muslims lack both the gentleness and civility and civilization, to have much appreciation for what such a [to them] insipid and wimpy religion of kindness might have to offer. They would also be murdered in a heartbeat, even by their own parents and relatives, if they became Christian. Thus only a very tiny handful of converts exists.

Since Christians believe that it was Satan who spoke to Muhammad and posed as "Allah," by reciting the Shehada a Muslim puts himself into Satan's reserves, and Satan can call on him, and pull his chain at any time even if he had appeared "moderate" up until then.

As for Jews, on the other hand, for one thing they invented Christianity, and all of its founders were Jewish and a majority of its members were Jewish for some 300 to 500 years after its founding. It is the survival into our times of Essene Judaism of antiquity, just as Rabbinic Judaism of today is the survival of Pharisee Judaism of antiquity. Sadducee Judaism of antiquity seems to have died out IMHO.

I saw a statistic a couple of years ago that in America alone, 700,000 persons are alive today who qualify legally as Jews by Halakha, but have accepted baptism into Christianity, mostly into the more leading mainstream Protestant churches. Many of those are Jewish men who married Christian wives.

This is just why Elon and other Jews are always SO hypersensitive lest Christians would convert from among them--- Christianity is SO, SO attractive to the Jewish mind, how could it be otherwise, that is who made it.
12 posted on 02/08/2004 7:40:02 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: Piranha
Yes, there are.

I don't have any internet links for you, but for many years there was an outstanding middle eastern Christian brother who maintained a booth in the Cleveland airport with literature with the intent of reaching Muslims for Christ. I had many good discussions with the man back in the day when I was still driving jets.

I hope the Lord has prospered his efforts.
13 posted on 02/08/2004 7:41:02 AM PST by applemac_g4
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To: Piranha; Alouette; SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
"Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question."

Sure there are. In many different forms, by many different organizations, in many different venues. We had a well known Lebanese Arab Christian talk at our church once, whose ministry is based in Lebanon. I don't recall his name. In fact, I was listening to him being interviewed on the radio a few weeks back. First time I'd heard from him in years.

The "War on Terror" is a religious and cultural war; Israel, America, and "The West" and our Judeo/Christian foundational beliefs at war with Islam and the Arab countries of the Middle East—and beyond. Therefore, it is essentially a "War of Ideas" which will be, ostensibly, won in the intellectual and cultural/religious arenas.

For the reader who respects the prophetic reliability of the Tanakh (the Old Testament) and the Revelation, though, we don't seem to achieve, um, much success.

Not that we shouldn't still try, as mandated, mind you. He is still faithful.




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15 posted on 02/08/2004 8:08:14 AM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Ashkenazy
With respect to our own times, I must give you back your "what utter nonsense."

Where in the last five hundred years, has anyone at all, and particularly Jews, been "forced" to convert to Christianity.

So silly. So hypersensitive.

Yet as I said, many Jews HAVE in our own times in fact converted to Christianity, and I agree it might ultimately be a threat to the survival of [Rabbinic] Judaism, someday, if things went on. But this is their own voluntary choice, absurd to drag in medieval history at this point.
17 posted on 02/08/2004 8:10:13 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: Alouette
Well of course attempting to convert whoever is willing to listen is a required part of the Christian religion.

Hats off to Christians who try it in Muslim lands where they might be killed for it!

18 posted on 02/08/2004 8:13:38 AM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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Been tried, frequently hazardous to the missionary's health.

Islamic Awareness: Conversion To Christianity: A Missionary Deception

"Those Are The High Flying Claims" (Refutation of the Christian missionary writings on the so-called "Satanic verses")

20 posted on 02/08/2004 8:22:18 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Chris Talk; Ashkenazy
many Jews HAVE in our own times in fact converted to Christianity, and I agree it might ultimately be a threat to the survival of [Rabbinic] Judaism, someday, if things went on.

The Jews who convert to Christianity are so assimilated, so far removed from any background in Judaism and from "rabbinic" (Orthodox) Judaism in particular, the survival of the Jewish people and religion is in no danger.

The number of Jews today who convert to Christianity is also completely underwhelming.

21 posted on 02/08/2004 8:23:00 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Piranha
In this country and I am guessing in Europe everyone is free to hear the GOSPEL message. In Mulsim countries I do not beleive they are able to hear the GOSPEL message without being persecuted or killed.

If I was able to ask Jesus a question: I would ask what is the best way to get the GOSPEL out to Muslims? I don't know....
It's unfortunate because I hear most American Christian and Jews almost say there not worth it, because of the on-going attacks agasint Israel and the U.S plus ISALM sounds to preach a message of HATE
22 posted on 02/08/2004 8:26:21 AM PST by missyme
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To: Alouette
Don't get me wrong, I hope you are right!

The world would be a much poorer place without Judaism in it, and especially the traditions that Ashkenazy has mentioned, which shed so much light and meaning upon what Christians believe too, and upon their origins.

I would even like to be on the pro-Israel ping list, whoever is maintaining that...

23 posted on 02/08/2004 8:27:15 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: Salem
"Are there any Christian efforts, anywhere in the world, to convert Muslems to Christianity (Muslims for Jesus)? I am asking this as a serious question."

Sure there are.

I wish I had the time to put together some links of missionaries murdered by Muslims in Africa and the Far East. It's as common as bus bombings in Jerusalem.

24 posted on 02/08/2004 8:27:56 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Alouette
There are many Messianic Congregations flourishing especially in the area where I reside, would you consider them no longer Jews and now Christains?

Some that I have speoken to consider themselves as Hebrew Christians as the Ancient people did.
25 posted on 02/08/2004 8:29:49 AM PST by missyme
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To: SJackson
Well, if you ever find yourself with some extra time on your hands, I think it would be worthwhile for us to be able to read that list.
26 posted on 02/08/2004 8:30:26 AM PST by Piranha
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To: SJackson
Jews are relatively easy to convert to Christianity. The Muslims Jihadists will kill any Christians who try to convert Muslims and is having some success.

And this is why there is no such outfit as Muslims For Jesus.
27 posted on 02/08/2004 8:34:11 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Chris Talk
I think the problem is that many people think that Christianity is so removed from Judaism but it isn't it is rooted in Judaism.

I just don't beleive that you have to give up the traditions and the history and the faith to be a JEW and a believer in Jesus. The apostles didn't as the early Christians (JEWS) didn't. The view of not being considered a JEW if you beleive in JESUS as the Messiah is a Modern opinion, it is not taught in the bible.

The Jews in the New Testament are still JEWS, they never said they were anything else but JEWS who beleived MESSAIH had came lived died and was resurrected and many Jews believe this in 2004.
28 posted on 02/08/2004 8:36:10 AM PST by missyme
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To: missyme
There are many Messianic Congregations flourishing especially in the area where I reside, would you consider them no longer Jews and now Christains?

What you gotta do is get some ex-Muslim congregations going. That are Muslims who have "come to Jesus". Now that'll be a tall order. Jews are easy fishing.

29 posted on 02/08/2004 8:37:06 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Piranha
Muslims kill about 200,000 Christians every year, though I doubt many of those were ever Muslims before.

Leading countries for this would include Indonesia, Pakistan, the Sudan, Nigeria, and several other African countries... and maybe even the USA, with 9/11 and the soldiers in Iraq.

More Christians have been killed for their faith just since WWII, than there ARE Jews in the world.
30 posted on 02/08/2004 8:37:44 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: dennisw
I have no idea why Muslims would kill anyone that converts to Christianity, is it because Christianity is rooted in Judiasm is it because Jesus was a JEW? is it because of G-d's promise to Israel. I think if they read the entire Old and New Testament they would then have to let Israel alone and realize it has a right to exsist and we all know that is the last thing they want..
31 posted on 02/08/2004 8:39:55 AM PST by missyme
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Fr. Vincent (Ferrer) began his apostolate with the title Legate of Jesus Christ on November 22, 1399. Large numbers of people became his disciples and followed him from place to place, up to 10,000 from every walk of life. Fr. Vincent preached in Limousin, the language of his native Valencia, yet all his hearers -- Germans, Greeks, Sardinians, Italians, and English -- understood him perfectly. For twenty years his efforts brought him to evangelize nearly every province of Spain. He also went to France, Italy, Germany, Flanders, England, Scotland and Ireland. He was even invited to Mohammedan Granada where he converted almost 8,000 Muslims. Even the caliph was interested, but when his nobles threatened him with civil war he reluctantly asked Fr. Vincent to leave.

From http://www.secondexodus.com/html/patronsaints/stvincentferrer.htm
32 posted on 02/08/2004 8:41:19 AM PST by miltonim
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To: missyme
There are many Messianic Congregations flourishing especially in the area where I reside, would you consider them no longer Jews and now Christains?

So-called "Jews for Jesus" organization was formerly known as "Board of Missions to the Jews." It was then and is now a church-sponsored organization run by gentile Christians. They target assimilated and disaffected Jews.

There is no surviving group of practicing Jewish-Christians who are descended from the original disciples of Jesus. They became extinct about the Third Century A.D., either reverting back to mainstream Judaism or intermarrying with non-Jews.

33 posted on 02/08/2004 8:42:31 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: missyme
IMHO the problem is not so much Christian teachings and doctrine, as the fact that nearly all Christians are so illiterate Jewishly, no nothing of Judaism or Hebrew or the history of this nation...

which according to Paul, the Jew of Tarsus, we have been grafted into! If I have been grafted into something, I want to at least know what it is,

so I have spent a decade or two trying to find out all I could about Judaism and how the two ever came to mistrust each other and seem so different superficially, even while being so much the SAME at heart and base...

I am afraid that once the Romans and Jews came to blows in the Bar Kokhba thing, Gentile Christians went overboard trying to show they were NOT JEWS, and changing external customs to that effect... just as after the 70 AD thing, Jews had gone to so much trouble to throw Christians out of the synagogues, and thus split the two relgions apart.

There is always enough blame in history to go around, the mistake is to try to blame decent humans here in the present for what somebody else supposedly did 1000 years ago.

That is what Muslims do all the time, constantly engage is some stupid vendetta over some long-ago imagined slight. Hatfield-McCoy to the nth power as it were.

34 posted on 02/08/2004 8:43:43 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: dennisw
Yes is sure would be a tall order. For the most part all Jews and Christians have lived in the U.S and are 2 faiths 2 people that make the U.S work in a civilized manner, it seems Muslims come here and they do not melt into the U.S way of life so people stay away from them like there aliens.
Jews and Christians alike.
35 posted on 02/08/2004 8:45:02 AM PST by missyme
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To: Chris Talk
Where in the last five hundred years, has anyone at all, and particularly Jews, been "forced" to convert to Christianity....So silly. So hypersensitive.

You're suggesting the Inquisition ended by 1504? Now that's silly. You're three centuries short not that the end of the Inquisition made the practice of Judiasm legal, of course. I suppose you could take the position that conversion, when the option of expulsion or death exists for the potential convert, isn't coersive, imo that's almost as silly as the idea that conversion, as a condition of employment, isn't coersive.

36 posted on 02/08/2004 8:45:13 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: SJackson
Well, of course, how many of the world's people lived in Spain, and were subject to the Inquisition?

I have already been reminded that the Spanish also forcefully if not forcibly, converted certain Indians to Christianity a little this side of 1504 as well.

I concede the technical point, but surely you would have to concede the substance of my contention. Make it 300 years or 250 then.

Blaming decent people now alive for the bloody errors of the past is a Muslim characteristic, and is dragging the world down to ruin. For us Christians and Jews to haggle with each other over these matters will not help. The enemy is at the gates, and we are all in Vienna, all in Tours and Poitiers.
37 posted on 02/08/2004 8:48:57 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will one day be.)
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To: Piranha
Christian Missionary Killed

7,080 hits, adding Islam or Muslim cuts it to 2200 to 2900. That’s more weeding out than I can do, but a quick browse through the articles demonstrates it’s a common occurrence, but that's a lot of articles to compile. I’ll check some sites like prosecution.org to see if anyone compiles a list.

38 posted on 02/08/2004 8:51:43 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Alouette
Just on the Internet alone there are so many sites geered twoard different sects of Judiasm that adhere to the New Testament GOSPELS.

Not only Jews for Jesus but there are NAZARENES, there are Hebrew Christians that deny the Trinity but beleive the Messiahship of Jesus Christ, there is a site on the New Messianic Bible. which is www.messianicbible.com which is put together by Jewish Scholars.. The background of these individuals are Jewish not Gentile so I don't know what you consider them to be? Are they dis-counted in Orthodox Judiasm?
39 posted on 02/08/2004 8:51:57 AM PST by missyme
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To: Piranha
I don't see a list, but there are some articles on the topic that might interest you at

www.persecution.org

40 posted on 02/08/2004 8:54:16 AM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Alouette
There is no surviving group of practicing Jewish-Christians who are descended from the original disciples of Jesus. They became extinct about the Third Century A.D

Can you tell me where you read that in the Third Century that Jewish Christians ceased to exsist as I would be interested in reading about that...Thank You!
41 posted on 02/08/2004 8:55:50 AM PST by missyme
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To: Alouette
I believe that Jewish law is that a Jew by birth cannot become NOT a Jew because of his beliefs. One is a Jew by birth if one's mother was Jewish (and so on, further back the line).

Judaism does not encourage converts, and if someone converts to Judaism and then accepts un-Jewish beliefs, that person ceases to be a Jew.

Acceptance of Jesus as the Messiah is a fundamentally non-Jewish belief and therefore a convert to Judaism who accepts that belief would cease being a Jew. On the other hand, someone who is born Jewish who accepts Jesus would continue to be Jewish, although with a non-Jewish belief system. The significance of this is two fold: (a) if that person later returns to the Jewish religion no conversion is necessary; and (b) if that person is a woman, her children are considered Jewish by birth and are not required to convert into Judaism.

So-called messianic synagogues are considered -- not only by Orthodox Jews, but also by Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist Jews -- as non-Jewish houses of worship, more specifically as disguised Christian churches that have adopted certain Jewish rituals and liturgy in order to make Jews who go there believe that they nonetheless are acting consistently with their faith.
42 posted on 02/08/2004 8:56:54 AM PST by Piranha
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To: missyme
Can you tell me where you read that in the Third Century that Jewish Christians ceased to exsist

Do a Google on Council of Niceia.

43 posted on 02/08/2004 8:59:48 AM PST by Alouette (I chose to NOT have an abortion -- 9 times.)
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To: Piranha
Where is it in the Bible that if you are born to a Jewish family by blood and then accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour that you are no longer a JEW? Does this come from G-d'd word? or is this a concept adopted by man?
44 posted on 02/08/2004 9:02:30 AM PST by missyme
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To: Ashkenazy
There have always been Jews who for the sake of convenience - the convenience, so they believed (quite wrongly) of walking away from the Jew hatred that blighted their lives - have converted to Christianity.

I'm a Catholic married to a Jew. My wife's sister is a Messianic Jew (Jews for Jesus) married to a Baptist. Nobody holds a gun to her head -- she's decided for herself what's true for her. She's even been thinking of going to Israel for missionary work

45 posted on 02/08/2004 9:03:14 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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To: Alouette
Thanks Alouette...! Internet is a wealth of Info lately.
46 posted on 02/08/2004 9:04:30 AM PST by missyme
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To: SauronOfMordor
Sounds like you have the best of both worlds in your household! The Holidays must be a busy time for all of you! G-d Bless.!
47 posted on 02/08/2004 9:06:39 AM PST by missyme
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To: Piranha
Have you been to a Messianic Service? it is far from a taditional Christian denomination service. The elders are from Jewish backgrounds not Gentile they are scholared in TORAH as well as the GOSPELS, it is very intriguing for Gentile Christians to attend this type of worship, as it brings you as far back as you might be able to understand from the early christians of Jesus's time..
48 posted on 02/08/2004 9:09:59 AM PST by missyme
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To: eno_
BUMP
49 posted on 02/08/2004 9:11:55 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Say not, 'I have found the truth,' but rather, 'I have found a truth.'--- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Alouette
The Jews who convert to Christianity are so assimilated, so far removed from any background in Judaism and from "rabbinic" (Orthodox) Judaism in particular, the survival of the Jewish people and religion is in no danger.

According to the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairsdemographic report, Orthodox Jews only account for 10% of the American Jewish population. Younger generations of Jews are drifting away from Judaism, mostly into secularism. This leaves a spiritual void that many are filling with Christianity

50 posted on 02/08/2004 9:15:10 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (No anchovies!)
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