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JOHN KERRY'S RADICAL PAST
Town Hall ^ | 2/25/04 | Joel Moebray

Posted on 02/25/2004 7:47:04 AM PST by areafiftyone

After the media tore into President Bush’s 30-year-old National Guard record like a voracious pit bull into a bacon-scented postman, Democrats have been licking their chops in anticipation of highlighting John Kerry’s decorated service during the same time period.

A new web site launching this week, however, should give Democrats more than a moment’s pause—and it’s likely just the opening salvo in exposing the truth about the outlandish actions of Kerry and his comrades as part of an anti-war group known as Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW).

The new site, WinterSoldier.com , is named after the event that helped raise Kerry to prominence in 1971. The Winter Soldier Investigation, as it was called, was held in Detroit from January 31 to February 2—with financial backing from Jane Fonda, according to an historian cited on the web site—where over 100 veterans testified about the most horrendous war crimes imaginable happening every day.

John Kerry was an instant celebrity, and the group behind the three-day conference, Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), certainly served his political ambitions well. But if the wealth of information found at WinterSoldier.com gains any traction, Kerry’s past could come back to haunt him.

VVAW was a media favorite: war veterans who were anti-war. Quite a sales pitch. But the more realistic characterization would have been Americans who were anti-American. (Literally, too: One of the documents at WinterSoldier.com is the minutes of a VVAW executive meeting where members decided to take down American flags from all VVAW offices.)

Their goal was not just to sour Americans on the Vietnam war, but to make them hate America and American soldiers.

Hence the Winter Soldier Investigation.

The three-day circus featured tales of the most sadistic forms of torture, including genital mutilation and gang rape, and wanton mass murder of innocent civilians. Kerry and the others claimed that almost unprecedented war crimes were not simply rampant, but committed as a matter of U.S. policy.

One of the most shocking quotes comes from Kerry himself, claiming that he had committed war crimes in Vietnam, then suggested he was merely following orders. Following orders, however, does not absolve someone of guilt for committing war crimes. Which begs the question: will Kerry be willing to discuss the details of the war crimes he claims to have committed?

Some will excuse VVAW’s actions and hyperbolic rhetoric as the work of people understandably disillusioned by an embittering war experience. But there is evidence suggesting that many of the atrocities routinely touted by VVAW were, well, made up.

An excerpt of historian Guenter Lewy’s book According to America posted on WinterSoldier.com discusses the results of a government investigation that attempted to corroborate the claims made at the VVAW event in Detroit. The investigators couldn’t.

According to Lewy, the VVAW had told its members not to cooperate with the government inquiry—a probe that was initiated by Sen. Mark Hatfield of Oregon in order to verify gruesome claims made at the VVAW-sponsored event. The historian also notes that government inspectors found veterans whose names had been used by people testifying in Detroit that were not actually there.

In other words, some of the “witnesses” in Detroit were impostors, tarnishing the names of real soldiers.

It appears that Kerry was also something of an impostor. During a massive rally in front of the U.S. Capitol, a number of veterans threw their medals over a high-wire fence. One was Kerry. Or at least so it appeared.

The section “Busted by the historians” contains an excerpt from Stolen Valor by B. G. Burkett, Glenna Whitley. The key quote: “But years later, after his election to the Senate, Kerry’s medals turned up on the wall of his Capitol Hill office. When a reporter noticed them, Kerry admitted that the medals he had thrown that day were not his.”

Since Kerry’s comrades seem so eager to judge President Bush’s character by whether or not he fulfilled a handful of National Guard obligations, the door may already have been opened to attacks on the Democratic front runner’s own conduct from those days.

Voters could have plenty of versions of Kerry from which to choose: the communist sympathizer who gleefully defamed America and millions of American soldiers, the war hero too cowardly to throw away his own medals, or the anti-war activist who was so eager to claim he had committed war crimes.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; joelmoebray; kerry; vvaw; wintersoldier
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1 posted on 02/25/2004 7:47:04 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Dubya wisely released all his NG records that were available.

If we had an unbiased media they would demand that Hanoi John release his. This is all going to turn around and bite him and the Rats Big Time.

Blessings, Bobo
2 posted on 02/25/2004 7:56:43 AM PST by bobo1
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To: areafiftyone; bobo1; Howlin; Dog; section9; hchutch; Poohbah; PJ-Comix; Grampa Dave; ...
JOHN KERRY MUST NEVER BE ELECTED OR WE WILL SEE THE ODIOUS PETER PAUL AND MARY AT THE INAUGURAL!!!!!

Folks, I just came home from errands and there were Peter, Paul, and Mary on Fox (Mary weighs about 300 pounds) and they were going on and on about how much they love John Kerry and he still plays guitar with them and how good a father he is and how warm he is and.....GAG! Then they sang a new song: "Have You Been to Jail for Justice?"

I cannot tell you how horrifying this was. If kerry is elected you KNOW these relics of the 60's will be at the inaugural, flashing the peace sign and giving the Black Power salute.

This is not to be borne. If you know anyone who is even THINKING of staying home or voting for this loser, please, PLEASE do what you can to change their minds. I lived through the 60's once and I do NOT want to do so again!!!!!

3 posted on 02/25/2004 8:04:30 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
ROFLMAO - Oh Nooooooo Peter Paul and Puff the magic dragon!!
4 posted on 02/25/2004 8:06:55 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
Kerry was in Viet Nam? No kidding? </sarcasm>
5 posted on 02/25/2004 8:08:31 AM PST by atomicpossum (Only Hillary Will Lick Bush in '04!)
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To: areafiftyone
Oh, the song was HORRIBLE!! Lists all these people like Ghadi and such and the refrain is "Have you been to jail for justice, then you're a friend of mine."

I bet those lyrics are somewhere. I am going to go find them. I wish someone else had seen it...it was truly awful!

6 posted on 02/25/2004 8:08:58 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: areafiftyone
An excerpt of historian Guenter Lewy’s book According to America posted on WinterSoldier.com discusses the results of a government investigation that attempted to corroborate the claims made at the VVAW event in Detroit. The investigators couldn’t.

Big problem, though. Lewy can't recall if he read the report or was briefed with a summary of its contents. Worse, last time I checked (yesterday), neither the government nor Lewy could find this report.

According to Lewy, the VVAW had told its members not to cooperate with the government inquiry—a probe that was initiated by Sen. Mark Hatfield of Oregon in order to verify gruesome claims made at the VVAW-sponsored event. The historian also notes that government inspectors found veterans whose names had been used by people testifying in Detroit that were not actually there.

Again, all of this comes from a report no one can find. Name the names of the imposters, who they impersonated, what they said in the WSI, and the proof of their fraud.

Until then, we have nothing so far on the WSI witnesses themselves.

We can cite proven frauds such as Al Hubbard and other members of the VVAW, but I've yet to see even one named WSI witness debunked.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the witnesses debunked, but it hasn't happened yet, as far as I know.

7 posted on 02/25/2004 8:09:31 AM PST by secretagent
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To: areafiftyone
Good site, well organized, but loads very slow.

It could get huge viewership soon, as word gets out.

Suggest acquiring a real stand alone site, they are cheap.

Nice work!

8 posted on 02/25/2004 8:11:03 AM PST by moodyskeptic (weekend warrior in the culture war)
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To: bobo1
Dubya wisely released all his NG records that were available. If we had an unbiased media they would demand that Hanoi John release his.

This reveals the reasons why the Dems raised a fuss over Bush's National Guard service when all these allegations were addressed four years ago. Now, if the Bush team goes after Kerry's anti-American activities in the early seventies, Terry McAuliff can claim that it's all about payback, in an attempt to discredit or downplay the truth - just as Starr's investigation was turned into a witch-hunt about private behavior when it was, all along, about perjury and obstruction of justice.

9 posted on 02/25/2004 8:11:10 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: areafiftyone
What You Don't Know about John Kerry
10 posted on 02/25/2004 8:12:23 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Miss Marple
Have You Been to Jail for Justice?
Anne Feeney
Now was it Cesar Chavez, maybe it was Dorothy Day
Some will say that Dr. King and Gandhi set them on their way
No matter who your mentors are
It's pretty plain to see
If you've been to jail for justice
You're in good company
Have you been to jail for justice?
I wanna shake your hand
For sittin' in and lyin' down
are ways to take a stand
Have you sung a song for freedom
or marched that picket line?
Have you been to jail for justice?
Oh you're a friend of mine!
You law abiding citizens
listen to my song
Laws were made by people
and people can be wrong
Once unions were against the law
but slavery was fine
Women were denied the vote
and children worked the mines
The more you study history
the less you can deny it
A rotten law stays on the books
til folks with guts defy it!
Have you been to jail for justice?
I wanna shake your hand
For sittin' in and lyin' down
are ways to take a stand
Have you sung a song for freedom
or marched that picket line?
Have you been to jail for justice?
Have you been to jail for justice?
Would you go to jail for justice?
Oh you're a friend of mine!
11 posted on 02/25/2004 8:15:47 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
HA! I knew I would find them! It is a song by someone named Anne Feeney.

Now was it Cesar Chavez, maybe it was Dorothy Day
Some will say that Dr. King and Gandhi set them on their way
No matter who your mentors are
It's pretty plain to see
If you've been to jail for justice
You're in good company

Have you been to jail for justice?
I wanna shake your hand
For sittin' in and lyin' down
are ways to take a stand
Have you sung a song for freedom
or marched that picket line?
Have you been to jail for justice?
Oh you're a friend of mine!

You law abiding citizens
listen to my song
Laws were made by people
and people can be wrong
Once unions were against the law
but slavery was fine
Women were denied the vote
and children worked the mines
The more you study history
the less you can deny it
A rotten law stays on the books
til folks with guts defy it!

Have you been to jail for justice?
I wanna shake your hand
For sittin' in and lyin' down
are ways to take a stand
Have you sung a song for freedom
or marched that picket line?
Have you been to jail for justice?
Have you been to jail for justice?
Would you go to jail for justice?
Oh you're a friend of mine!

Horrifying, isn't it?

12 posted on 02/25/2004 8:18:39 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: atomicpossum
Kerry was in Viet Nam? No kidding?

Absolutely. He is a decorated war hero! You aren't questioning his patriotism, ARE YOU?

13 posted on 02/25/2004 8:19:09 AM PST by paul51
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To: Miss Marple; veronica; Poohbah; mhking
Wow... this is interesting.

Makes me glad I prefer 80s music and movie soundtrack with the occasional gangsta rap CD thrown in.
14 posted on 02/25/2004 8:20:08 AM PST by hchutch ("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
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To: areafiftyone
Well, yours was faster, but I used spacing ant italics!!! LOL! Is that not the most awful thing to read? Implicit is the idea that Kerry was arrested so he is cool. UGH!
15 posted on 02/25/2004 8:20:17 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
All their songs were horrifying. I cannot stomach Peter Paul and Mary. They make me cringe!
16 posted on 02/25/2004 8:20:24 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: hchutch
Oh, you have no idea!! Spread the word about Kerry's musical friends. I believe one of them was also arrested for child molestation, if I remember correctly. I think Peter Yarrow, but I may be wrong.
17 posted on 02/25/2004 8:21:36 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: paul51
Kerry was in Viet Nam? No kidding?

Absolutely. He is a decorated war hero! You aren't questioning his patriotism, ARE YOU?

Wow, he must be very pro-defense (though I couldn't ask him about it without opening up 'painful wounds').

18 posted on 02/25/2004 8:24:01 AM PST by atomicpossum (Only Hillary Will Lick Bush in '04!)
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To: Miss Marple
This 60's/70's stuff is sooo annoying. I hated that era and don't want to relive it either. I hate John Kerry for even bringing that era up!
19 posted on 02/25/2004 8:26:26 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Miss Marple

20 posted on 02/25/2004 8:29:36 AM PST by maggief
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To: areafiftyone; Lady Composer; diotima; Howlin; Nita Nupress
This 60's/70's stuff is sooo annoying. I hated that era and don't want to relive it either.

Yeah, and the clothes were REALLY bad too and what's even worse, the idiot designers and clothing industry has brought all that stuff back into the stores - ewwwwwwwww! I REFUSE, absolutely REFUSE, to buy my girls "peasant blouses". Yuck!

21 posted on 02/25/2004 8:30:20 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; areafiftyone
This 60's/70's stuff is sooo annoying. I hated that era and don't want to relive it either. I hate John Kerry for even bringing that era up!

I was JUST thinking the same thing as I read down this thread!

Think of all the horrible people who might get appointments to government positions!

22 posted on 02/25/2004 8:32:48 AM PST by Howlin
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
What kills me is that the stuff they have now is more slutty trashy then they had in the 60's and 70's. We had ugly fashion then but now its because just plain slutty.
23 posted on 02/25/2004 8:33:23 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone
The Kerry Comintern lives again. These commies never give up do they?
24 posted on 02/25/2004 8:35:01 AM PST by hgro
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To: Howlin
Imagine the 60's theme parties at the White House. I wouldn't put it past Kerry to Invite Fonda over for a Lincoln Bedroom sleep over!
25 posted on 02/25/2004 8:35:09 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Howlin; areafiftyone; Miss Marple
Check this out:

http://www.progressivegovernment.org/PresidentialCampaign/kerrystaff.cfm

Just imagine who he'd bring into his cabinet!

And do NOT miss this web sites "picks" for their Dream Cabinet:

http://www.progressivegovernment.org/shadow/the_dream_cabinet/index.cfm
26 posted on 02/25/2004 8:35:20 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Miss Marple
I cannot tell you how horrifying this was. If kerry is elected you KNOW these relics of the 60's will be at the inaugural, flashing the peace sign and giving the Black Power salute.

And "toking".

Kerry’s toke

Sen. John Kerry recently spent 4 days campaigning in Iowa with folk music legend Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul & Mary. Yarrow, an old friend (they both protested Vietnam together...) traveled with the Senator as his opening act.

This had interesting results at the Story County Democrat event in Ames, IA. Howard Dean attended the event and joined Yarrow and Kerry while Yarrow led the signature song, “Puff the Magic Dragon:”

As the folk star began his signature song with an unintended double meaning, Kerry mouthed a few words then took his index finger to his thumb, pursed his lips, and feigned a marijuana toke.

27 posted on 02/25/2004 8:36:52 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Howlin
OMG that is even worse than the Clinton Cabinet! And I thought Clinton's was the worst but now that I see this one I think Kerry topped Clinton on that one!
28 posted on 02/25/2004 8:38:36 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone

29 posted on 02/25/2004 8:39:33 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Kerry mouthed a few words then took his index finger to his thumb, pursed his lips, and feigned a marijuana toke.

Oh thats just lovely! Is this guy pathetic or what? He's a freakin Hippy!!!

30 posted on 02/25/2004 8:39:48 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Miss Marple
If kerry is elected you KNOW these relics of the 60's will be at the inaugural, flashing the peace sign and giving the Black Power salute.

This is not to be borne. If you know anyone who is even THINKING of staying home or voting for this loser, please, PLEASE do what you can to change their minds. I lived through the 60's once and I do NOT want to do so again!!!!!

Like you, I lived through the 60's early 70's. I can't take an encore of these anti American left wingers in power.

Life in the years under their living legends the Clintoons, 1993 until President Bush was sworn in January 2001 was enough for me.

31 posted on 02/25/2004 8:41:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (John F'onda Kerry has been a Benedict Arnold and legislative terrorist since Nam!)
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To: areafiftyone
1960

1960 - The American Vegan Society is formed.

1961 - the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) began the freedom rides to end segregation on buses.

1961 - Amnesty International founded to protect the rights of political prisnors.

1962, Sept. 30--The first convention of Cesar Chavez's National Farm Workers Association (NFWA) is convened in Fresno, Calif.

1963 - . On August 28, 1963, 250,000 men, women, and children assembled on the grounds of the Lincoln Memorial. And the world was blessed to hear the famous "I have a Dream" speech given by Dr. Martin Luther King jr

1963 - Presiden John F. Kennedy is assinated in Dallas Texas Nov. 22.

1963 - Tolstoy Farm becomes the prototype, back to the land, "hippie" commune, with few rules and and open membership.

1964- Drop City commune/artists colony founded in Trinidad, Colorado.

1964 - Mario Savio gets up on a police car at Spoul Plaza at the UC campus in Berkeley, Ca. and sparks the Free Speech Movement.

1964 - The U.S. creates the Gulf of Tonkin incident as an excuse to escalate the war in Vietnam.

1964- Tim Leary writes The Psychedelic Experience

1964 - Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters began traveling around the country in a school bus painted psychedelic colors giving "Acid Tests. " Introducing people to the LSD experience.

1966 Spring-summer --A boycott of the struck DiGiorgio Fruit Corp. forces the giant grape grower to agree to an election among its workers. The company brings in the Teamsters Union to oppose Cesar's NFWA. The NFWA and the Filipino American AWOC merge to form the United Farm Workers and the union affiliates with the AFL-CIO, the national labor federation. DiGiorgio workers vote for the UFW

1966 - National Organization of Women NOW was established on June 30, 1966 in Washington, D.C.

1966 - The Supreme Court ruled that cities must begin to desegregate the schools immediately. In 1971, they approved busing as the primary method of integrating the schools

1966 - in the wake of the assassination of black leader Malcolm X and on the heels of the massive black, urban uprising in Watts, California. Huey P. Newton gathered a few of his longtime friends, including Bobby Seale and David Hilliard, and formed the Black Panther Party for Self Defense.

1966 - Lou Gottlieb declares his "Morning Star Ranch" Land, access to which is denied no one." And starts a legal battle with local authorities to keep Morning Star open land eventually deeding the land to God.

1966 - Mark Lane writes Rush to Judgement suggesting there was a conspiracy to assasinate president Kennedy.

1966 - October 30, -Acid Test Graduation

1967 - Ed Sanders and Tuli Kupferberg of The Fugs, and some SF Diggers lead a mass crowd in the .Excorsism of the Pentagon

1967 - The Summer of Love!!!

1968 - Martin Luther King jr assasinated in memphis, Tenn., on April 4.

1968 - Robert Kennedy assasinated in Los Angeles, Ca., on June 4.

1968 - American Indian Movement starts foot patrol in Minneapolis in response to growing police violence.

1968 - Durring demonstartions at the Democratic National Convention several organizers are indicted and become known as the Chicago 7.

1969 - First Earth Day celebration.

1969 - Woodstock Festival in upper N.Y. draws 500,000 people. Along with 3 days of music, Wavy Gravy and the Hog Farm create an atmosphere of love that transcends the crowd. Woodstock Nation declared.

1969- The Stonewall riots in NYC lead to the birth of the modern Gay Lesbian Bi Transgender movement.

1969 - The people of Berkeley, Ca. take an unused lot from UC and create People's Park.

1970

1970- May 4 , Kent State Massacre occurred when the Ohio National Guard opened fire durring an anti-war demonstration killing 4 students.

1970 - National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) formed.

http://www.hippiemuseum.org/timeline2.htm

1971 - The ERA is approved without amendments by the U.S. House of Representatives in a vote of 354-24

1971- Greenpeace began in 1971, when a small but determined group of activists boarded an aging 80-foot boat, slowly making their way through the cold North Pacific waters off Alaska. Their mission was to "bear witness" to the destructive nuclear weapons testing planned for Amchitka island. Little did they know they had just created what was to become the largest environmental movement in the world.
32 posted on 02/25/2004 8:44:05 AM PST by Howlin
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To: areafiftyone
I just finished reading The New Soldier, Kerry's 1971 anti-war polemic. The book contains an excerpt from his now-infamous testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as well as testimony from anti-war veterans as to atrocities that they allegedly saw or heard about. The book also includes dozens of photographs of "Dewey Canyou III," an anti-war demonstration in Washington by anti-war veterans that took place at the time of Kerry's testimony (it was named for Dewey Canyon I and II, which were military operations in Vietnam).

In writing this book, Kerry did his part to undermine American morale and to establish the negative image of Vietnam veterans that lingers in the public's mind. The New Soldier has become scarce and is fetching beaucoup bucks on the used book market. After reading it, I can see why it is in Kerry's interest for the book to remain hard to find.

33 posted on 02/25/2004 8:44:12 AM PST by Taft in '52
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To: areafiftyone
Foxnews showing new John Kerry video?

As Folk Singer Supports Kerry, He Objects, Too

John Kerry Report - Excerpts from the Iowa Daily Report - January 1-15, 2004

Kerry’s toke Sen. John Kerry is on a 4-day Iowa with folk music legend Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul & Mary. Yarrow travels with the Senator as his opening act.

This had interesting results at the Story County Democrat event in Ames, IA. Howard Dean attended the event and joined Yarrow and Kerry while Yarrow led the signature song, “Puff the Magic Dragon:”

As the folk star began his signature song with an unintended double meaning, Kerry mouthed a few words then took his index finger to his thumb, pursed his lips, and feigned a marijuana toke. (1/5/2004)

'Scarborough Country' for Jan. 15

And listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (singing): ... in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee. Puff the Magic Dragon...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCARBOROUGH: What in the world is John Kerry thinking?

34 posted on 02/25/2004 9:00:27 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Miss Marple
Oh my God; my thoughts exactly. They were so enthralled with Kerry and bubbly with praise for him. Then they picked up their guitars (I never really realized how much I've grown to hate folk music until they started up this morning) and the first few words I heard were Cesar
Chavez and Rosa Parks, and I couldn't hit the "off" button on the remote quick enough. YECCHH. Now maybe if they picked up electric guitars and sang about Ollie North and Ronald Reagan......
35 posted on 02/25/2004 9:09:39 AM PST by giznort
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To: Miss Marple
Spread the word about Kerry's musical friends. I believe one of them was also arrested for child molestation, if I remember correctly. I think Peter Yarrow, but I may be wrong.

You are correct.
Yarrow's Kerry Puff Daddy

JOHN Kerry's presidential campaign strategists are probably hoping his friendship with frisky folk legend Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary will go "Puff!" like a certain Magic Dragon.

Yarrow, a close Kerry pal who has been warming up crowds for the Massachusetts senator in Iowa, pleaded guilty to taking "immoral and improper liberties" with a 14-year-old girl back in 1970.

As reported at the time, the girl and her older sister went to Yarrow's hotel room seeking an autograph. Yarrow answered the door naked and made sexual advances that stopped short of intercourse. The 14-year-old resisted his advances but did not call for help. Yarrow served three months of a one- to three-year prison sentence and was pardoned by Jimmy Carter in 1981.

Yarrow is making headlines these days while stumping for Kerry on the campaign trail. The Boston Globe reported that he "planted a major smooch on the cheek of a comely television reporter" while strumming his guitar on Kerry's campaign bus, "The Real Deal Express." Kerry chided his friend, the Globe reported, but a few minutes later Yarrow was "inching toward the newswoman. Kerry's hands then shot up in between her face and Yarrow's, leaving no doubt that the senator's perfect manners include gallantry. 'Peter, enough!' Kerry bellowed."

And at a recent party for supporters in Ames, Iowa, Yarrow may have caused Kerry some embarrassment while performing, "Puff the Magic Dragon." Apparently the silver-haired senator was enjoying the song too much. As reported by the Washington Post's Ceci Connolly, "Kerry lifted his fingers to his mouth for a quick toke on an imaginary joint. You can almost see his thick mane of silver hair returning to the shaggy brown 'do of those days."

When we called a Kerry campaign spokeswoman yesterday to talk about Yarrow, a flustered flack tried to dissuade us from reporting on his past. "What's the point of this story?" sputtered Kerry rep David DiMartino. "Isn't the New York Post supposed to break news, not rehash it?"

When we pointed out that many younger readers might not have heard much about the colorful Yarrow, who is godfather to Kerry's daughter Alex, DiMartino gave us the campaign's official line: "John Kerry has a lifelong friendship with Peter Yarrow."

36 posted on 02/25/2004 9:26:29 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Howlin
Kerry's joint appearance

CNN's "Inside Politics" just ran a video clip of John Kerry at a campaign event where Kerry pretends to be smoking a joint. The tape was provided to CNN by the Republican National Committee, Judy Woodruff said. She didn't explain a lot about why CNN chose to run it, nor did she give much background about the tape.

But here's a description of the actual event from the CBS News reporter assigned to Kerry. It took place on Jan. 6 in Iowa, when Kerry was campaigning with his old friend Pete Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary.

"... aides were shaking their heads after a Yarrow-inspired scene turned out a little weird. At a house party thrown by Story County Democrats, Yarrow summoned Kerry to the living room where he had just started playing 'Puff the Magic Dragon.' At one point, as Yarrow sang the word 'puff,' Kerry quickly gestured as if he was smoking pot."

Maybe the RNC is worried about Kerry's apparent rise in the Iowa polls.

37 posted on 02/25/2004 9:36:11 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: paul51
LOL! I'm not one to spread rumors BUT I have it on good authority that JFKerry is a practicing PolyNamist: a political candidate who has taken several sides for himself on the Vietnam War. And continues to look for new sides every day, as the mood and opportunity presents itself.
38 posted on 02/25/2004 9:40:26 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (1)
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To: atomicpossum
"Kerry was in Viet Nam? No kidding?"

I did not know that! He really should highlight his extensive Vietnam combat experience more. I'm sure he has some amazing "stories" to tell.
39 posted on 02/25/2004 9:41:13 AM PST by Skywarner (Freedom isn't Free. Remember our WWII vets!)
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To: Miss Marple
1970 Mar 26, Peter Yarrow (Peter, Paul & Mary) pleaded guilty to "taking immoral liberties" with a 14 year old girl. (SS, 3/26/02)

Source

40 posted on 02/25/2004 9:46:25 AM PST by Neenah ("It's Always Something!")
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To: Howlin
Back from lunch. Did you see that the "Dream Candidate" for replacing Donald Rumsfeld is GARY HART?????

To the ramparts! Man the barricades!!! These people must NEVER get near the White House!!!

41 posted on 02/25/2004 10:03:01 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: areafiftyone
"The section “Busted by the historians” contains an excerpt from Stolen Valor by B. G. Burkett..."


I heard Michael Medved interview Mr. Burkett yesterday; verrrrry interesting!! One guy who called in to the program mentioned how remarkable it was that Kerry got a bronze, silver, and three purples in 4 months' time!!!
42 posted on 02/25/2004 10:09:51 AM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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To: areafiftyone
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/

Wintersoldier.com

43 posted on 02/25/2004 10:11:21 AM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: areafiftyone; Miss Marple; hchutch; giznort; Howlin; Grampa Dave
C'mon you guys! PP&M's music was some of the best folk music we've ever had - except for their anti-war songs. Take a look at their early songs - many were very Christian and some were very patriotic - others, like the Garden Song were simply fun to work with. Stookey's Marriage Song ("He is now to be among us...") is still one of the best, too. And truth be told, most of us agree with the desires expressed in the anti-war rhetoric, but unlike them, we realize that it is fallacy to expect imperfect human beings to ever attain such a state.

They were very good artists - but I wouldn't want a Dali or Escher painting on the front of the White House.

All the rest of your comments about not wanting them anywhere near the WH and not wanting to relive the '60s I wholeheartedly agree with.
44 posted on 02/25/2004 10:40:53 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: AFPhys
I'm sorry I just can't get into their music. Never could. That's just my taste though. :-)
45 posted on 02/25/2004 10:44:29 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Miss Marple
"Did you see that the "Dream Candidate" for replacing Donald Rumsfeld is GARY HART?????"

Yeah, in my worst nightmare would this slimeball replace Rummy!
46 posted on 02/25/2004 10:47:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (John F'onda Kerry has been a Benedict Arnold and legislative terrorist since Nam!)
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To: AFPhys
Unfortunately, I now associate their music with the democrats, which is a killer artictically for me. The only reason I liked their music back in the day was that it was easy to sing along with, unlike some other performers.

Now if you want to talk about the late Jim Croce, I am and will always be a fan.

Besides, Peter Paul and Mary remind me of that old Gallagher routine..."I'm still stuck in the sizxties.."

And, you must admit this song about going to jail for justice is really lame! LOL!

47 posted on 02/25/2004 10:49:59 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Grampa Dave
You know, people really need to think about what the election of Kerry would mean. Not only the artists at the inaugural ceremony, but who would be in the cabinet? Yikes!!!
48 posted on 02/25/2004 10:51:39 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: areafiftyone; Miss Marple
'Tis OK to not get into folk music, particularly theirs - I meant to point out that PP&M were at one time very Christian and reasonably patriotic. Their music was, and still is, great singing music - even the anti-US junk is catchy.

I've not heard that latest song, and don't really want to - I prefer to recall their oldies and goodies instead.

MM's admonition that people recall the type of advisors Kerry would bring in tow with him is very powerful, and as the last months of the election arrive, will seriously erode any support Kerry might have. Quite a contrast to the excitement all of us here had during Bush's campaign when many of us were skeptical of him, but were ecstatic about those who would be helping him lead us during his presidency.
49 posted on 02/25/2004 11:00:39 AM PST by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Miss Marple
You really know how to ruin my day don't you!

The mere thoughts of John F'onda Kerry as president and the gay 60's old goats back in the spot light is horrible!

John F'onda Kerry would probably make Jane Fonda Turner his Secretary of State.
50 posted on 02/25/2004 11:01:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (John F'onda Kerry has been a Benedict Arnold and legislative terrorist since Nam!)
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