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To: Coleus
So Indian, or other foreign brains, are better than American brains.

It's got nothing at all to do with employing indentured servants at lower pay, right. Right?

But, hey, it's O.K. These guys are just temporary, right?

So what percentage go back after their contract? I'm sorry, I can't hear the answer. It's so quiet in here.

We ought to just keep the Indians and deport the politicians.
4 posted on 10/05/2006 7:00:53 PM PDT by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: outdriving
It's got nothing at all to do with employing indentured servants at lower pay, right. Right?

I engage people to do computer programming for a small company. American programmers who are available to small companies aren't very good and cost A LOT (I know, there are brilliant American programmers; but as far as I can tell, they all work for Microsoft, Intel etc. I've never actually found one that will work for a small company and believe me, I've tried).

Granted, the programming we required is very demanding--it's not just another web database or java application. So we need really good people. But we have had nightmares with programmers we have hired out of America. The last one almost took my company under.

At this point, we would just stop programming if the only option were American programmers because there is no return on that investment, even if they did the job they were hired to do.

Result, I am engaging Bulgarians who do a really professional job at spec'ing the job and writing the code for less than half the price charged by American programmers who don't finish their jobs or kludged them.

The reality is, world supply of programmers has outpaced demand and American programmers are overpriced. American programmers got used to $75,000 starting salaries and developed a sense of entitlement during the 90's. At those prices and with those attitudes they are uncompetitive.

I would suggest that, before whining, they go out and hone their skills, their attitudes, and their prices and they would find small businesses flocking back to them. I would love to employ someone local. It makes my life so much easier. But I'm not ready to risk another American programmer after the repeated bad experiences we have had.

14 posted on 10/05/2006 8:00:57 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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