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To: Badeye

This anti-Christmas stuff is ridiculous. The holiday stopped being about the birth of Christ long before commerical accomodations to non-Christians got involved. For all intents and purposes, Christmas is gift time and not a religious holiday for the vast majority of Americans. I honestly don’t mind that stores want to cater to the largest crowd possible. I mean, customers trump religious sensibilities on the balance sheet.

All I need to know is when and where my Christmas mass will be. I prefer to celebrate the birth of Jesus at home and in church - the mall really doesn’t factor in to this.

I’ll leave the boycotting and whining to the anti-anti-Christmas crowd that seems to be more concerned about marketing slogans and store displays then using the time to open their hearts and homes and spreading cheer during (what used to be a universally) sacred time.


41 posted on 10/12/2007 8:33:45 AM PDT by SomeReasonableDude (Back it up.)
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To: SomeReasonableDude
I’ll leave the boycotting and whining to the anti-anti-Christmas crowd that seems to be more concerned about marketing slogans and store displays then using the time to open their hearts and homes and spreading cheer during (what used to be a universally) sacred time.

Hey Scrooge, where's your Christmas spirit? For me and my family, it doesn't really feel like Christmas until we're boycotting at least a dozen stores.

50 posted on 10/12/2007 8:41:35 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: SomeReasonableDude

‘This anti-Christmas stuff is ridiculous.’

Of course it is. Liberalism is always ‘ridiculous’ when applied to free markets and capitalism.

Mrs Fields fears a minority (10 - 12%) and insults the overwhelming 89% of the potential customer base?

Thats typical liberalism, and utterly stupid business practice.


51 posted on 10/12/2007 8:42:30 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: SomeReasonableDude
I’ll leave the boycotting and whining to the anti-anti-Christmas crowd that seems to be more concerned about marketing slogans and store displays then using the time to open their hearts and homes and spreading cheer during (what used to be a universally) sacred time.

For at least a century, Christmas has been two holidays. A religious observance of the birth of Christ, and a secular occasion to spend time with friends and family, exchange gifts, and let folks know what they mean to us. I know a lot of Jews and atheists who exchange Christmas presents, hang lights and decorate a tree. .

The latter observance, as so often happens, has spilled over into an orgy of consumerism and mass marketing. Look at Valentine's Day -- a holiday I boycott in its entirely, because it's been bought and sold by DeBeers, FTD, Hallmark and Hershey. Romantic love is a wonderful thing 365 days a year; I don't object to Valentine's Day because of the symbolism. I object to the packaging of it.

Back to Christmas. The early Church co-opted a lot of pagan symbolism into Christmas from the very beginning. It's a good symbolic fit -- On the literal darkest days of the year, near the winter solstice, comes the birth of a new hope, a new life. And in the dead of winter, when our ancestors huddled together and shared what little they had ust to merely survive, today we come together and share our material goods and our company.

The friction between the Christian and the secular versions of Christmas is not new. It did not begin when Trey Parker and Matt Stone animated Jesus and Santa duking it out. What's new in the last few decades is some local officials reading too much into the establishment clause; what's new in the last few years is some commentators, and I'll call out the AFA and Bill O'Reilly, gaining a lot of attention by wigging out every time that happens.

Just to be perfectly clear, I think the "war on Christmas" is a massively overblown "issue." It exists to raise hackles. And, like Christmas decorations, it seems to come earlier every year. Yeesh! It's still too early to carve a jack-o-lntern if you don't want it to rot before Hallowe'en.

76 posted on 10/12/2007 9:30:51 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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