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Spain to Remove All Symbols of Franco
Daily Telegraph ^ | 10/12/2007 | Fiona Govan in Madrid

Posted on 10/12/2007 9:24:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Spain is to ban all public references to the Franco regime under a controversial Bill that seeks to make amends to the victims of the Spanish Civil War and ensuing 36-year dictatorship.

All statues, street names and symbols associated with the dictator and his supporters will be removed as part of the Law of Historic Memory, which was presented to the Madrid parliament this week.

Even plaques and stained glass windows showing the Falange symbol of the yoke and arrows or the eagle associated with Franco's rule will have to be replaced.

At one time statues glorifying the Generalissimo adorned almost every town square but most have been taken down in recent years.

The decision to remove reminders of Spain's dark past will now be enshrined in law forcing all remaining elements associated with Gen Franco to be stripped from public view.

Opponents of the measure accuse the Socialist government of Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, which has made the Bill a priority ahead of a general election next March, of "opening old wounds" and "denying Spain its history".

The legislation has set the government on a collision course with the Roman Catholic Church, which commemorates those who gave their lives fighting on Franco's side during the 1936-1939 war.

Dozens of churches across Spain bear memorials to some of the 10,000 clerics and devout Catholics estimated to have been killed as Leftists, fighting to defend Spain's secular republic, tried to wipe out what they saw as Catholic resistance.

But under the new law the Spanish Church risks losing state aid and financial subsidies if it fails to remove the plaques listing the names of pro-Franco fighters beneath the phrase "Fallen for God and Spain".

The move contrasts with the attitude of the Vatican, which later this month will beatify 498 Catholic "martyrs" of the Spanish Civil War.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; erasure; europe; franco; purge; socialists; spain
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The current Spanish government exposes its anti-Catholic, pro-Communist colors again.
1 posted on 10/12/2007 9:24:22 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; Desdemona; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/12/2007 9:25:13 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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This just in! Generalisimo Francisco Franco is still dead!


3 posted on 10/12/2007 9:28:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Pyro7480

Franco died?


4 posted on 10/12/2007 9:28:15 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Pyro7480

Although I don’t consider the fascist, muslim soldiers employing dictator Franco a good guy, the Republican side had a nasty communist component (Stalinists, Trotskyists and worst of all Christ-hating anarchists). The communists defiled churches, exhumated and mocked Catholic saints and shot at statues of Jesus and Mary. Spain better also remove the Communist memorials... but that’s a no-brainer for the leftists in charge there.


5 posted on 10/12/2007 9:29:23 AM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
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Whatever happened to Franco? He still dead?
6 posted on 10/12/2007 9:30:48 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Pyro7480

¡VIVA CRISTO REY!
7 posted on 10/12/2007 9:32:25 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480

Pretend it didn’t happen - that’s always a plan, LOL.


8 posted on 10/12/2007 9:34:03 AM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: Pyro7480

Rewriting history is what the left does best.


9 posted on 10/12/2007 9:34:27 AM PDT by skeeter
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[U]nder the new law the Spanish Church risks losing state aid and financial subsidies if it fails to remove the plaques listing the names of pro-Franco fighters beneath the phrase "Fallen for God and Spain".

The lesson, Dear children, is this: NEVER accept government money for ANYTHING you believe to be of any eternal significance, else you become dependent upon it, and thus give government a point of leverage aginst the work of God (i.e. give the Enemy a foothold, lit. "give place to the devil" cf. Ephesians 4:27).

10 posted on 10/12/2007 9:35:20 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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“...to the victims of the Spanish Civil War”

What victims? It was a civil war, and thank God the communists lost. Franco was no peach, but the people he was fighting were virulent reds.


11 posted on 10/12/2007 9:42:06 AM PDT by DesScorp
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I thought Franco was a good guy who wiped out the Commies then refused to throw in his lot with Hitler and Mussolini?

The Spain of El Cid and Santiago Matamoros has become just another Euroweenie socialist state.


12 posted on 10/12/2007 9:42:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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Are they going to photoshop his image out of the pictures in the history books the way Stalin did?


13 posted on 10/12/2007 9:48:03 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: HKMk23

The real lesson is to never, under an circumstances, by any means, including elections, allow leftists to control your government. Do whatever it it to stop it.


14 posted on 10/12/2007 9:53:58 AM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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“Are they going to photoshop his image out of the pictures in the history
books the way Stalin did?”

Well, here’s the style manual for today’s Spanish Socialists/Communists.
Only today’s software makes historical revisionism faster and simpler
when dealing with images.

The Commissar Vanishes: The Falsification of Photographs and Art
in Stalin’s Russia
by David King
http://www.amazon.com/Commissar-Vanishes-Falsification-Photographs-Stalins/dp/080505295X/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5414726-7494310?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192207889&sr=8-1

I do have to give the compiler of “The Commisar Vanishes...” credit.
My understanding is that he describes himself as a Socialist and keeper
of Socialistic memorabilia.
But at least he was honest enough to produce this book documenting
Soviet/Stalinist visual revisionism.
Also known as “lying” via images.


15 posted on 10/12/2007 9:57:14 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Pyro7480

Start here, one guesses.

16 posted on 10/12/2007 10:00:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Pyro7480

Franco kept the Nazis off Gibraltar at a very ticklish time in the war. He and Canaris worked directly against Hitler. Canaris was strangled with piano wire for his later plot against the Fuhrer IIRC. May God preserve their memory.


17 posted on 10/12/2007 10:01:00 AM PDT by agere_contra (Who remembers the Armenians? No-one on FR apparently.)
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The terrorist-facilitated government in Spain is basically engaging in the behavior that George Orwell (a combatant in the Spanish Civil War) described in 1984: they are trying to abolish history - and they are doing it using doublespeak: using the term "Historic Memory" even as they attempt to eradicate it.
18 posted on 10/12/2007 10:04:21 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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Love those little editorial quotation marks around "martyrs".

What about these holy martyrs merits those nasty little punctuation signs?

Their courage and charity breaks my heart.

19 posted on 10/12/2007 10:09:01 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Pyro7480

Sounds like just the sort of historical revisionism the Communists are infamous for.


20 posted on 10/12/2007 10:09:20 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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