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The Day I Asked a Question and Got The MOTHER of All Answers
7/28/2009 | Vanity

Posted on 07/28/2009 1:00:50 PM PDT by MissTickly

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I’d like to thank everyone for reading my story and considering it.

Thank you!


181 posted on 07/29/2009 7:45:26 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: naturalborn
So unless Obama amends his birth records to make his dad a US citizen, all this other research is a deflection.

Well, Dr. Fukino just announced on Monday that 0bama is a "natural-born American citizen." So either she doesn't know what she's talking about, or BO's daddy is an American citizen and not BO Sr.?

182 posted on 07/29/2009 7:50:28 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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Mike Church (sirius radio) just reported that Obama can’t be a NBC under the 14th Amendment. He said NBC status is conferred only to children of 2 US citizens. So unless Obama amends his birth records to make his dad a US citizen, all this other research is a deflection.

Maybe Fukino is giving us clues. Maybe by calling him natural born she's suggesting his vital records on file list a different father than the internet COLB floating around.

183 posted on 07/29/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Yes, Hawaii is now officially contradicting the only document in the public domain by calling Obama natural-born, implying that they can and have verified he was born in a single Honolulu hospital they can name (why don’t they?) to a father who was an American citizen. They can only do that if the orig birth certificate is on file and does not in any way match the short summary printout.

Otherwise, they’re just making a political statement for the Obama Administration by just saying the key words they were asked to say in order to confuse the public.


184 posted on 07/29/2009 8:51:29 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: smokingfrog

Yep, and it can be cleared up all so easily. Unless he has something to hide that would get his a$$ kicked out of his current house.


185 posted on 07/29/2009 9:43:26 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: MissTickly

Did you ever get an answer to your question?


186 posted on 07/29/2009 4:57:38 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: musicman

I am easily impressed. But that really impressed me. Good eyes! Thanks


187 posted on 07/29/2009 5:35:57 PM PDT by mel
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To: mel

Thank you for your reply to my post!


188 posted on 07/29/2009 6:35:21 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Vendome; MarkYoungLawyer
Ah yes. I read it again and reconsidered the first few sentences. Yeah, it appears ol' Marky is one of those guilt riddled liberal whites.

It's all your fault Mark. You need to start paying reparations right now. Reply to me and I will supply an address for where to send the money.

I also note that he doesn't seem have the guts or integrity to come back and respond to any of the reply posts. And this is in spite of the fact that replies to him have been a lot more cordial and polite that I have seen others treated.

189 posted on 07/29/2009 8:46:40 PM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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To: Vendome; MarkYoungLawyer
If you read his post, it's similar to a junior or sophomore in high school.

The odds of that are about the same as winning the lottery. His sentences are too well formed for him to be a public HS student, and if he were from private school it is unlikely he would be so liberal.

OTOH, if he actually did manage to get a law degree he would have finally been taught how to write. He also would have been sufficiently indoctrinated to harbor the requisite liberal white guilt.

190 posted on 07/29/2009 9:04:31 PM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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To: Danae

Here’s my follow up:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2304218/posts


191 posted on 07/30/2009 12:08:59 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

I am very confused…

Let me see if I am close - My mom was adopted as a baby, and her original BC is sealed. She can only gain access to the BC if she hires a lawyer, and appeals to the court. My mom has never seen her original real BC, with her birth parents. Her current BC appears to be real/normal, and she never knew it wasn’t the original. But it is actually her second BC, with her adoptive parents listed as the real parents, etc. She didn’t find out she was adopted until she was 45.

So, are you saying Obama has an original BC sealed through adoption court, and the one Hawaii has on file, that they have seen, is the amended BC, obtained through his adoption by Soetoro?

Is Hawaii, in your opinion, verifying to you that they have seen his amended Soetoro BC, or his original, with his father, BHO, listed?

Or am I completely lost?


192 posted on 08/02/2009 8:23:40 PM PDT by sarainitaly
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To: Danae

I have read through this thread and I don’t get it. If Obama was born on U.S. soil, adoption isn’t going to divest him of U.S. citizenship. Indeed, taking a child to Indonesian would not divest a juvenile of U.S. citizenship. He would have had to renounce his citizenship, himself, after age eighteen by verbal means or some clear act of renunciation. That’s why the Pakistan trip is so interesting. It may qualify as a physical act of renunciation if he used an Indonesian passport.


193 posted on 09/22/2009 1:01:08 PM PDT by iontheball
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In reality, it is what Hawaii is holding that is interesting. They admit they have more than one record. and they admit they have an amended birth Certificate. This tells us that certain documentation is obtainable by a citizen who legally asks for it. If they refuse, they have to state why. Otherwise it goes to civil court and the person asking has standing to do so if they are refused the records outside the laws of Hawaii.

What Obama did in Pakistan or Indonesia or UK or with any other citizenship will be found out if we can get through a Discovery phase! Just getting there is what is happening now. It all starts in Hawaii.

MissTickly is a goddess!


194 posted on 09/22/2009 1:15:21 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: MissTickly

I can’t believe I missed this!


195 posted on 09/22/2009 1:15:57 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

I am sorry I fail see this as earth shaking. We knew they had documents of some sort on Obama and we knew that Soroetoro had likely adopted Obama. In light of that historical backdrop, why is the fact that the file likely contains an amended BC seem like such a major revelation? In other words, why is the fact that they amended a short form birth certificate that had Barak, Sr’s. name on it to an amended short form with Lolo Soroetoro’s on it such a big deal from an Art II eligibility standpoint? Please enlighten this ignorant soul. Thanks.


196 posted on 09/22/2009 2:00:05 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: iontheball

In a real sense it isn’t earth shaking, if only because we don’t have any way on knowing what might come of it. I am certain something will, but whether its relevant or usable is another. Its like to finding a crack in a dam. Or a broken riven in a steel hulled shit. It might not mean anything, it might also mean the whole darned structure falls down. The only thing you can do is pick at it and see what happens.

Because the State of Hawaii broke its own laws, they may have to pony up all the documents that led Fukino to declare that Obama was a Natural born citizen according to the laws of the State of Hawaii. We may well find out just how different Hawaii’s definition of Natural Born Citizen differs from the US Constitution’s definition. That difference may mean that Obama ends up in Jail begging for a Presidential Pardon.


197 posted on 09/22/2009 2:09:26 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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