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To: STARWISE; BP2; LucyT; Fred Nerks
Interesting idea....?

THEREFORE, since they are legal equals: No one is obliged to offer any proof at all of an amended certificate’s existence when they ask this exact question:

“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?”

19 posted on 07/28/2009 1:45:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

I think the reaction we got last night is a testament to how interesting it is.

“Interesting idea....?

THEREFORE, since they are legal equals: No one is obliged to offer any proof at all of an amended certificate’s existence when they ask this exact question:

“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?” “


33 posted on 07/28/2009 2:00:54 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: hoosiermama
Yes, they state of Hawaii offices have generated "canned" answers because they know they're getting busted on their real answers.

There's only a handful of people who work in the DHHL office. When I conversed with Rhonda Funn, DHHL Information and Community Relations Office, when the CNN story broke, she stated (and I quote): "Our requirements have not changed. We've always accepted both certificates as proof of birth. The only difference between the two is that the original Certificate of Live Birth contains more information."

No offense -- but DUH. They might also "accept" a ham sandwich, but that doesn't prove that your parents were of Hawaiian decent, nor your Hawaiian "blood quantum". Just like the DHHL had on their website from 2001 to June 2009 states: "Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

IF you submit a "Certification of Live Birth", the DHHL will NOT accept it on FACE VALUE to grant you land, especially if you have a non-Hawaiian name of Smith, Jones, or Obama. The "Certification of Live Birth" only shows "City, Town or Location of Birth".

The DHHL will ask for additional information if you had them a "Certification of Live Birth". And if you DON'T have it, they will turn to the state of Hawaii's own archived records (especially "original birth certificates") to determine "blood quantum" -- just like it says here in the DHHL pamphlet:

Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - DHHL requires the Certificate, p 3 Request a Long form COLB for DHHL

38 posted on 07/28/2009 2:11:29 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: hoosiermama; Beckwith; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
THEREFORE, since they are legal equals: No one is obliged to offer any proof at all of an amended certificate’s existence when they ask this exact question:

“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?”

Thanks, hoosiermama; interesting idea, indeed.

41 posted on 07/28/2009 2:23:45 PM PDT by LucyT
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