Skip to comments.Inside the FBI’s secret relationship with the military’s special operations
Posted on 04/11/2014 7:08:51 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
When U.S. Special Operations forces raided several houses in the Iraqi city of Ramadi in March 2006, two Army Rangers were killed when gunfire erupted on the ground floor of one home. A third member of the team was knocked unconscious and shredded by ball bearings when a teenage insurgent detonated a suicide vest.
Who, the relative asked, was this man the one represented by a blue dot and nearly killed by the suicide bomber?
After some hesitation, the military briefers answered with three letters: FBI.
The wounded agent in Iraq was Jay Tabb, a longtime member of the bureaus Hostage and Rescue Team (HRT) who was embedded with the Rangers when they descended on Ramadi in Black Hawks and Chinooks. Tabb, who now leads the HRT, also had been wounded just months earlier in another high-risk operation.
At Fort Bragg, N.C., home to the Armys Special Operations Command, Delta Force operators trained the agents, teaching them how to breach buildings and engage in close-quarter fighting, said Danny Coulson, who commanded the first HRT.
The teams mission was largely domestic, although it did participate in select operations to arrest fugitives overseas, known in FBI slang as a habeas grab.
Sometimes lines blurred between the HRT and the military. During the 1993 botched assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Tex., three Delta Force operators were on hand to advise. Waco, along with a fiasco the prior year at a white separatist compound at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, put the FBI on the defensive.
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FBI and SpecOps over there and over here!
It’s similar to the ATFs involvement in Combined Explosives Exploitation Cell. They bring special things to the fight.
when a country fights a long series of low-intensity wars, first soldiers act like cops, and finally cops act ike soldiers.
He had his quirks, but G. Gordon Liddy used to raise Cain about Posse Comitatus and rightly so.
The feds have gotten around the intent of the legislation by taking people with military training and military weapons, and calling them "civilian law enforcement".
I would welcome somebody filing a "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck" lawsuit, on the assertion that any federal employee who uses military weapons and tactics for law enforcement is in violation of Posse Comitatus.
And Obama thinks he’s going to take this country by martial law? With federal SWAT teams?
One Iraqi household, 2 special forces dead, one wannabe SF injured.
How many homes are there in the U.S? Are the federales the same caliber as SF? Math doesn’t work out there.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...
(Yes, I know that's border patrol, the principle still holds)
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve got to have a civilian national security force thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008They dont call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense.
The official name is National Civilian Community Corps. I think of it as the NATCCC, or more simply as the NatCs...
It has never been a secret.
I can think of a few situations during Clinton’s term that had cops ransacking homes, stomping on rights. and now we have the same thing happening in NV to the ranchers
I’m trying to remember such an event during a republican president
Rules of engagement will be completely different in CONUS than they were in the sandboxes.
George H. W. Bush was President on August 21, 1992.
The remainder is left as an exercise to the student.
They’re not likely to encounter suicide bombers.
On the other hand, they can expect to receive “tips from concerned citizens” about buildings that turn out to be booby-trapped.
Remember also how much commotion Christopher Dorner and John Mohammad/Lee Malvo caused.
Vicky and Samuel Weaver were murdered during the first Bush presidency. The Waco raid was also planned during that time, but executed shortly after Clinton assumed the office.
Sure. They will shoot first ask questions later. And word of that will get around, and then what goes around comes around. Except they will be outnumbered 1000 to 1 and we will have guns much larger than 9mm subguns, and not be confined to indoor dynamic entry situations.
Their logistics don’t add up.
The guys flying the drones will be thousands of miles away. Maybe not even in CONUS. Maybe not even American...
Big Brother closes in...
Till we hack the drones and start flying them back to them, or send out our own.
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