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Corporate America Is Just 7 States Short of a Constitutional Convention
inthesetimes.com ^ | 3/14/16 | Simon Davis-Cohen

Posted on 03/14/2016 3:10:54 PM PDT by cotton1706

In February, Republican presidential hopeful Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) signed on to a call for a constitutional convention to help defeat “the Washington cartel [that] has put special interest spending ahead of the American people.”

Cruz, along with fellow Republican presidential aspirants Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Gov. John Kasich (Ohio), has endorsed an old conservative goal of a Constitutional amendment to mandate a balanced federal budget. The idea sounds fanciful, but free-market ideologues associated with the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a secretive group of right-wing legislators and their corporate allies, are close to pulling off a coup that could devastate the economy, which is just emerging from a recession. Their scheme could leave Americans reeling for generations. A balanced budget amendment would prevent the federal government from following the Keynesian strategy of stimulating the economy during an economic depression by increasing the national debt. (Since 1970, the United States has had a balanced budget in only four years: 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001.)

Article V of the Constitution lays out two routes for changing the law of the land: An amendment can be proposed by Congress or by a constitutional convention that is convened by two-thirds of the states (34). Either way, three-fourths of the states (38) have to ratify it. Previously, changes to the country’s founding document have been achieved by the first process. But as of today, 27 states—seven shy of the twothirds threshold required by Article V—have passed resolutions calling for a constitutional convention to consider a balanced budget amendment.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conventionofstates
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Look who's getting worried!!
1 posted on 03/14/2016 3:10:54 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Publius; Jacquerie

ping


2 posted on 03/14/2016 3:11:10 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

With Trump as President, maybe Cruz, Rubio and Kasich could get some of these bills and laws straightened out.


3 posted on 03/14/2016 3:15:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 5thGenTexan; 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Arthur McGowan; ...
This article was written before West Virginia joined the effort. For a Convention of the States dedicated to the discussion of a balanced budget amendment, the count is now 29 down, 5 to go.

For a more comprehensive Convention of the States dedicated to the Georgia application language extracted from Mark Levin's The Liberty Amendments, the count is still 6 down, 28 to go.

4 posted on 03/14/2016 3:21:56 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: cotton1706
Look who's getting worried!!

ME!!! Because it does not stop at the budget. I have read Mark Levin's liberty amendments and there are only a couple that actually liberate us from the beast. The majority will ultimately have the opposite affect of what they propose.

5 posted on 03/14/2016 3:23:34 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: cotton1706
The author's leftist perspective:

<>Maybe the alternative is the revolution Bernie Sanders is envisioning: Electing insurgent candidates to Congress, state and local office; strengthening and expanding direct democratic institutions like the ballot initiative process; making constitutional changes that elevate democratic decisions above corporate personhood; and building a movement that engages the thousands of communities where democratic governance has been all but quashed by ALEC-endorsed legal doctrine and legislation.<>

Rats love democracy. They abhor federalism.

Democracy works toward Bernie's goals; federalism is the means toward a good end, free government.

6 posted on 03/14/2016 3:29:14 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: patlin

<> The majority will ultimately have the opposite affect of what they propose.<>

Please explain.


7 posted on 03/14/2016 3:29:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: cotton1706
A Constitutional Convention cannot be anything but a disaster of epic proportions.

There are no limits to what such a group can change about the US Government. And you can be certain that "Progressives" will dominate the proceedings from the outset.

A large plurality, possible a majority of the US population wants Socialism. The appeal of "Free stuff for everybody" is very hard to overcome and mere facts will not matter. People want to believe. The Progressive organizers will use them to seize power at every opportunity.

8 posted on 03/14/2016 3:37:17 PM PDT by flamberge
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To: cotton1706

Republicans control the House, the Senate, and most state legislatures.

They could pass an Amendment right now. But they won’t. Yet these are the same people we are to trust with an Art. V convention.

Don’t be played.


9 posted on 03/14/2016 3:39:19 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: cotton1706

I am of the opinion that the best path to a balanced budget is to adopt a method of taxation based upon representation call representative apportionment.

Under this concept, the States are billed for the taxes. The tax bill would be split into two even portions. One is to then be divided by the number of representatives and the second portion is then divided by the number of senators. Each state would then be billed for the sum total of it’s Senators and Representatives.


10 posted on 03/14/2016 3:40:21 PM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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11 posted on 03/14/2016 3:46:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: cotton1706

I want a balanced budget, but I want term limits more. Very much more. And congress won’t go down that road, so we the people - MUST!


12 posted on 03/14/2016 4:10:59 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: cotton1706

Keynesian Economics was proven to be a fraud decades ago.


13 posted on 03/14/2016 4:12:07 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: flamberge; Art in Idaho
Art,

Would you please post your Article V reference links?

flamberge is in need of an education.

14 posted on 03/14/2016 4:25:30 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V - A Call to Convention, available at Amazon.)
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To: flamberge
The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.

Disposal:

Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.

Explicitly forbidden:

Implicitly forbidden:

Reference works:

Frequently Asked Questions About a Convention of the States

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

State Initiation of Constitutional Amendments: A Guide for Lawyers and Legislative Drafters

15 posted on 03/14/2016 4:26:47 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Ray76
That is precisely why Article V provides for state-sourced amendments
16 posted on 03/14/2016 4:27:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V - A Call to Convention, available at Amazon.)
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To: Jacquerie

There is no need to invoke Art. V, the same goals could be accomplished today.


17 posted on 03/14/2016 4:30:45 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: flamberge

A Convention of the States is NOT a Constitutional Convention!!!

They are two different things and you should educate yourself.

I’m 25, no college degree, and I know this. So should you.

“Article Five of the United States Constitution describes the process whereby the Constitution, the nation’s frame of government, may be altered. Altering the Constitution consists of proposing an amendment or amendments and subsequent ratification. Amendments may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures.[1] To become part of the Constitution, an amendment must be ratified by either—as determined by Congress—the legislatures of three-fourths of the states or State ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states.”


18 posted on 03/14/2016 4:38:32 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Ray76
Republicans control the House, the Senate, and most state legislatures.

They could pass an Amendment right now. But they won’t. Yet these are the same people we are to trust with an Art. V convention.

Don’t be played.

I think the states will control who represents their interests at an Article V convention. The U.S. Congress should have no say.

That said, I have little faith in an Article V convention being able to solve our intractable problems. I would suggest that instead a model constitution be drafted by some stalwart and right thinking patriots (Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, +++), with the resulting document being then published widely. The publication should contain an invitation to the legislatures of the states to ratify, with the proviso that the ratification will have no effect unless and until it has been ratified by three-quarters of the states. At that time, the new United Sovereign States of America will be declared.

I know. That completely ignores the existing constitution's procedure for ratification. I would point out, however, that there is precedent in U.S. history for such a procedure. When our current constitution was drafted, the Constitutional Convenntion COMPLETELY IGNORED the Articles of Confederation's provisions for ratification of alterations of its provisions, as well as the convention's charging documents concerning the scope of its own authority.

19 posted on 03/14/2016 5:39:50 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: Spartan79

> I would suggest that instead a model constitution be drafted by some stalwart and right thinking patriots (Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, +++)

I could not disagree more.


20 posted on 03/14/2016 6:07:13 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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