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Trump Draft Executive Order on Welfare Has Liberals FURIOUS
Conservative Tribune ^ | 02/15/17

Posted on 02/15/2017 2:28:07 PM PST by Enlightened1

A copy of a draft order reported by The Washington Post earlier this month and being circulated among cabinet members seeks to address what the order describes as a massive burden on the American taxpayer.

The order calls for immigrants “likely to need certain types of public aid” to be identified prior to entry, and for immigrants already using those services to be deported.

The draft order also requires strict financial responsibility for relatives who promised to support immigrants who are instead now relying on social aid.

The potential savings estimated by the order are as high as “$100 billion,” although little data exists to support that figure.

Welfare is a way of life for too many immigrants, according to the Center for Immigration Studies. All immigrants, legal and illegal, are more likely than native-born people to use some form of welfare. Those who have U.S.-born children make far greater use of the system.

We should be welcoming immigrants with open arms, not an open wallet. Liberals are losing their minds over the idea that we might inject some economic realism into our immigration policies.

“He [Trump] would literally be taking food out of the mouths of babes,” Kevin Appleby of the Center for Migration Studies told The Washington Post.

Perhaps instead of reaching out to immigrants the moment they set foot on our soil to connect them with social service programs, we need to be connecting them with jobs the minute they arrive.

(Excerpt) Read more at conservativetribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegal; immigrants; taxpayers; trumpwelfare; welfare
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1 posted on 02/15/2017 2:28:07 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

every civilized country in the world restricts immigration.


2 posted on 02/15/2017 2:29:45 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: Enlightened1

Uh, Trump isn’t Left Handed.

Clinton and Obama were though.

Just sayin’.


3 posted on 02/15/2017 2:30:38 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Enlightened1

need corroboration.


4 posted on 02/15/2017 2:30:47 PM PST by Paradox ("Donald Trump", the biggest Strawman ever created.)
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To: Enlightened1

Sorry, chica with the middle-fingered salutes. Those days are over.


5 posted on 02/15/2017 2:30:56 PM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will besar these slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: Enlightened1

A Welfare State with open Borders cannot survive for long.


6 posted on 02/15/2017 2:31:49 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Enlightened1
Basket of Deportables
7 posted on 02/15/2017 2:32:33 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Except those in European Union.................


8 posted on 02/15/2017 2:33:17 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Enlightened1

Smiling so wide my face hurts.


9 posted on 02/15/2017 2:36:19 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Enlightened1
"He [Trump] would literally be taking food out of the mouths of babes,"

"Illegal aliens are literally taking the food out of the mouths of American babies"

10 posted on 02/15/2017 2:36:24 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (im)
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To: Enlightened1

Trump Draft Executive Order on Welfare Has US Citizens Elated.
(why should libs live in our heads)


11 posted on 02/15/2017 2:37:21 PM PST by dontreadthis (I finally came up with this tagline)
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To: Enlightened1

Anyone trying to immigrate to Australia, New Zealand and apparently Canada without a source of income or a pot of money, and see how far they get.


12 posted on 02/15/2017 2:37:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Concerned trolls/NeverTrumpsters, don't know to celebrate winning as they buy into fake news!!!!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Does he sign his name from right to left as in the photo?


13 posted on 02/15/2017 2:37:39 PM PST by D Rider
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To: Kickass Conservative

Lapel pin, yes they flipped the photo to make the graphic.


14 posted on 02/15/2017 2:37:51 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (im)
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To: Enlightened1

there is no moral imperative to allow illegal babes to feed at the public trough. that includes anchor babes


15 posted on 02/15/2017 2:38:31 PM PST by Thibodeaux (the long night is over)
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To: Kickass Conservative

A Welfare State with open Borders cannot survive for long.


Milton Friedman might not have been the first to say that, but he definitely said it, back in the 70s.


16 posted on 02/15/2017 2:38:33 PM PST by samtheman (Trump won bigly. Trump governs bigly. His critics don't get bigly.)
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To: Enlightened1

I used to volunteer at a hospital for indigents in San Francisco:

A TON of Chinese immigrants bring in their parents and the FIRST thing they do is put them on EVERYTHING —super expensive medical care...

I remember one pair whose mother spoke ZERO words of English, she was ONE HUNDRED YEARS OLD and admitted, for ZERO costs to her family.

It’s totally ridiculous.

They have quick “how to” guides in Chinese for The Welfare Express.

Don’t even get me started on the Mexicans...


17 posted on 02/15/2017 2:39:18 PM PST by gaijin
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To: proud American in Canada

The audacity of folks thinking they can come to our nation and act like THEY own it, is almost unfathomable.

Nope, she’s likely to be a person flipping us off from Mexico in the near future.

Trump isn’t kidding around. The free ride is over.

As for U.S. Citizens on Welfare, that’s going to end too.

Trump has addressed it. He said that he was expecting them to find jobs and move off Welfare.

The guy has it just right.

The days of half the nation being beholdin to the U.S. Government are coming to and end.

Welfare amounts to $500,000,000,000.00 dollars a year.

If Trump could cut it by 75%, that would be a huge savings. I think it could be done. Only those who cannot work should be allowed to get Welfare. Even then, family members should be called on to chip in and pay some to support their family members. If mom can’t work, then the family should help in some way.

The government has no obligation to pick up the full tab. Technically, it has no obligation to pay anything at all.


18 posted on 02/15/2017 2:39:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Enlightened1

Calling Judge Robart....


19 posted on 02/15/2017 2:40:36 PM PST by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

These distorting LIB morons know that President Trump is focusing on illegal alien invader felons. Arrest them all, seize their assets and deport them. If they return...beat them, shoot them or otherwise let them know they aren’t going to be allowed to break laws.


20 posted on 02/15/2017 2:41:05 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Some public images are mirrored for appropriate fit. This is probably one of them.


21 posted on 02/15/2017 2:41:26 PM PST by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: Enlightened1

Saturate the nation with grey matter and require voter id.


22 posted on 02/15/2017 2:41:36 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Don’t think that is his signature either, even if the photo was reversed it does not look like his.


23 posted on 02/15/2017 2:41:51 PM PST by madison10 (Pray for President Trump and VP Mike Pence Daily)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Actually, it’s every sane country too.

Not that I’m accusing the American left of sanity. No far be it from me to slander them by saying they’re sane.


24 posted on 02/15/2017 2:41:59 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Enlightened1
This is going to be in the naive category but may I ask:

Why do illegals who broke our immigration laws and are currently, this moment, here illegally, Why are they eligible for any welfare, food stamps, SS, disability, free medical, low income housing. Why? They're not American Citizens. Am I missing something here? ?

If I went to Mexico, would I immediately be eligible for all of the above?

25 posted on 02/15/2017 2:42:04 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Enlightened1

A shame we can’t force all those liberals who are furious with this supposed potential EO to pay for all those illegals and immigrants who are on the dole. Why should hard working Americans be forced to pay for people who come here to live off our welfare system. Let them live off the welfare system in their own countries.


26 posted on 02/15/2017 2:42:17 PM PST by falcon99
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To: Enlightened1

“Trump Draft Executive Order on Welfare Has Liberals FURIOUS”

GOOD! Anything that makes them FURIOUS is WONDERFUL!


27 posted on 02/15/2017 2:44:30 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: Art in Idaho

They use fake identities and SSN’s.


28 posted on 02/15/2017 2:45:29 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“You can have open borders or a welfare state, you cannot have open borders AND a welfare state.”-—Milton Friedman


29 posted on 02/15/2017 2:46:13 PM PST by huckfillary
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To: Enlightened1
I pray for Trump daily - he has the toughest, most thankless job on the planet earth, and he has the Hounds of Hell against him! With God's help, Team Trump WILL Make America great again!
30 posted on 02/15/2017 2:46:18 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: Art in Idaho

“If I went to Mexico, would I immediately be eligible for all of the above?”

I assume that that question is rhetorical. Of course, unless you are filthy rich you cannot even get a job in Mexico. That is the law. Therefore, you would be deported forthwith.


31 posted on 02/15/2017 2:51:06 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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To: D Rider

It’s a Japanese thing.


32 posted on 02/15/2017 2:54:32 PM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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To: Enlightened1

Even that socialist bleeding heart Emma Lazarus wrote:
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

There’s nothing in that poem about Lady Liberty needing every deadhead in the western hemisphere and middle east yearning to *live* free.
We need immigrants able to work and contribute, not resident leeches of uncertain status and loyalties waving Mexican or black flags, mooning over the old country and a religion that ran them off and won’t take them back.

Go Trump, go go go! MAGA


33 posted on 02/15/2017 2:56:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Art in Idaho

Some of them (not from Mexico) claim to be refugees which makes them eligible for a whole bunch of “freebies” immediately. It’s a crock.


34 posted on 02/15/2017 2:56:21 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Trump is right handed.

http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-left-handed-8-presidents-who-were-lefties-including-obama-2468776


35 posted on 02/15/2017 2:57:49 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Art in Idaho

“If I went to Mexico, would I immediately be eligible for all of the above? “

If you illegally emigrated to Mexico and asked for “all of the above”, you’d probably get basic food, water, shelter, and clothing in the form of a jail sentence (2 years I think).


36 posted on 02/15/2017 2:58:12 PM PST by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Enlightened1

In days of yore, immigrants had to show a skill and already have a job waiting for them. Today, they’re met with a welcome basket filled with a lifetime of government freebies.


37 posted on 02/15/2017 3:02:00 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Enlightened1

Mexican immigration laws ensure that immigrants and foreign visitors are...

In the country legally;
Have the means to sustain themselves economically;
Are not destined to be burdens on society;
Are of economic and social benefit to society;
Are if good character and have no criminal records;
Are contributors to the general well-being of the nation.

The law also ensures that...

Immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
Foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
Foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
Foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
Foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
Those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.


38 posted on 02/15/2017 3:02:11 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Enlightened1

We should also look at the recent Swiss proposal: the third generation in residence can apply (emphasis: apply) for naturalized citizenship, while the first two generations remain non-voting resident aliens, subject to deportation (for, say, felony convictions with sentences exceeding 10 years - the ‘bad hombres’).

“Polls suggest the “simplified naturalization of third-generation immigrants” will pass. It would make for less paperwork, fewer delays and lower fees for anyone under 25 whose parents and grandparents have lived in Switzerland for years but who did not go through the time-consuming, onerous naturalization process.
Mercado said her family moved around a lot, making an application for highly-coveted Swiss citizenship through the usual channels — generally 12 years of residency is the minimum requirement — a daunting process for her.
Candidates for citizenship are required to master at least one of Switzerland’s four national languages — German, French, Italian or Romansh — respect its legal order, and honor “fundamental values” of the Constitution, such as equal rights for women and men and freedom of conscience.”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02/10/swiss-consider-citizenship-for-third-generation-foreigners.html


39 posted on 02/15/2017 3:03:05 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you." President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: edh
If you illegally emigrated to Mexico and asked for “all of the above”, you’d probably get basic food, water, shelter, and clothing in the form of a jail sentence (2 years I think).

That's what I thought. President Trump, shut this all down!! We fully support you in this endeavor!!

40 posted on 02/15/2017 3:05:35 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

So is Netanyahu.


41 posted on 02/15/2017 3:07:58 PM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: Grampa Dave

Anyone trying to immigrate to Australia, New Zealand and apparently Canada without a source of income or a pot of money, and see how far they get.


Even Mexico. In order for an American to move there you have to have 100,000 in the bank and show an income of at least 2-3,000/month for the past 2 years.

And you won’t get government paid benefits.


42 posted on 02/15/2017 3:08:24 PM PST by Vic S
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To: Art in Idaho

Illegal immigrants are not eligible. That’s why they start popping out kids here. The kids are all eligible and the illegal parents get the bet cards. If just one person in a family of illegals is legal they’re eligible for section 8. An American born baby is their bucket of gold at the end of the rainbow.
Legal immigrants sign papers saying they will not use public assistance. Since the different counties across the nation disburse the welfare the immigrants are not held to it. Some of the legal immigrants have sponsors that the paperwork says they will support them for five years. They’re not held to it either. If they’re legal the counties sign them up.
Refugees are a special breed they get instant, legal welfare for up to 7 years supposedly. I’m sure just like all the other requirements they’re not held to the 7 years.
I was an eligibility worker for food stamps and MediCal in another life.


43 posted on 02/15/2017 3:18:12 PM PST by sheana
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
The draft order also requires strict financial responsibility for relatives who promised to support immigrants who are instead now relying on social aid
44 posted on 02/15/2017 3:20:33 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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“Those who have U.S.— born children make far greater use of the system.”

FReepers can go to their state’s online food stamp / welfare benefits application and look at it. You’ll likely see the anchor baby loopholes jumping right out at you.
It’ll have some sort of lame disclaimer that says “if you are not a citizen, you are not eligible for benefits. However, if others in your family are citizens, YOU may apply on THEIR behalf.”
Many applications ask, is anyone in the household pregnant or in need of prenatal care—regardless of immigration status, in effect saying, come here and have a baby. We’ll pay!
Some states have the applications printed in multiple languages, or offer free translators.
Some of the state applications even have questions like, “Is anyone in your home an unaccompanied minor?”
One the “unaccompanied minor” or anchor baby is signed up, the child is entitled until age 18 for the full ride, including housing and medical.
One anchor baby lays the basis to establish a welfare household, and then bring in the rest of the family from the old country.
The citizen baby needs a social security card to get the food stamps, etc, but the SS card has no birthday or age on it and can then be used by others in the household.

Subsequent citizen children born a few years apart, or born to teenagers in the household, can keep the gravy train rolling for decades.

If the kid’s non-citizen family accidentally enjoys the free beans and subsidized housing, too, that’s private. Not the taxpayer’s business. /s

FReepers should look at this stuff and then contact their state legislators and demand they put a stop to it.

Illegal aliens have no business applying for 18 years of welfare “on behalf of” their minor children who shouldn’t have been born here or brought here by the illegal aliens in the first place.


45 posted on 02/15/2017 3:28:16 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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To: Enlightened1

I thought this was already part of immigration.
If they have no means of support, they need a “sponsor”, who has to sign an affidavit of support, in the U.S. to ensure that they do not become dependent financially on the U.S. Government.


46 posted on 02/15/2017 3:29:03 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Pining_4_TX

Some of them (not from Mexico) claim to be refugees which makes them eligible for a whole bunch of “freebies” immediately.
_________________________________________________

Many of the Syrians are being imported as ‘Refugees’ and are immediately entitled the benefits of the welfare state - housing, food stamps, monthly allowance, etc.


47 posted on 02/15/2017 3:31:17 PM PST by beekay
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To: Tennessee Nana; GOPJ; sickoflibs; TADSLOS; Jane Long; no-to-illegals; stephenjohnbanker; ...
Fearing deportations, Mexico warns its citizens in the U.S.
LA Times ^ | 2/10/17 | Patrick McDonnell et al / FR Posted by markomalley

The much-publicized deportation of an immigrant who had been living illegally in Arizona prompted the Mexican government on Friday to urge its nationals in the United States to “take precautions” amid a “new reality” for the immigrant community.

The expulsion of Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos, a Mexican citizen and mother of two U.S.-born children, “illustrates the new reality of the Mexican community living in the United States in the face of more severe application of migration controls,” the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.

The ministry urged its citizens to “stay informed about immigration matters”’ and keep in touch with the extensive Mexican consular network in the United States. However, Mexican authorities acknowledged there is little they can do to slow deportations or counter other get-tough immigration policies of President Trump. (Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...

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48 posted on 02/15/2017 3:33:36 PM PST by Liz (Coulters Law: the MSM's delay inreporting a perp means the less likely it's a white Christian)
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To: Vic S

Thanks.

My wife heard of a liberal couple wanting to run to Mexico.

Since, they weren’t retired, besides the pot of cash, they needed over $5,000 per month in net Income.

Also, they had to pay for any medical and legal costs, which is why as you noted, they needed $100k in a bank.


49 posted on 02/15/2017 3:34:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Concerned trolls/NeverTrumpsters, don't know to celebrate winning as they buy into fake news!!!!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Why are there so many heartbreaking stories about illegal aliens in the news?

The news media are dishonestly attempting to sway public opinion (57%)

Trump’s policies are harming immigrant communities (43%)


50 posted on 02/15/2017 3:36:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Concerned trolls/NeverTrumpsters, don't know to celebrate winning as they buy into fake news!!!!)
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