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Donald Trump claims falsely that Hillary Clinton gave Russia 20% of US uranium [Huh?]
CNBC ^ | 2/16/2017 | Tom DiChristopher

Posted on 02/17/2017 7:56:13 AM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines

President Donald Trump repeated an incorrect claim on Thursday that Hillary Clinton gave Russia 20 percent of the United States' uranium while serving as secretary of State.

The fact-checking website PolitiFact has determined that statement, which Trump first made on the campaign trail, is mostly false.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintonfoundation; cnbc; fakenews; giustra; hillary; rosatom; uranium
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1 posted on 02/17/2017 7:56:13 AM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Lemme guess, the real number was 25%. Trump lied again!! /s


2 posted on 02/17/2017 7:57:52 AM PST by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

“Mostly false”. Is that like being “mostly pregnant”? Who checked the “factchecker”?


3 posted on 02/17/2017 7:59:27 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

From the failing NYT no less
Search terms
Frank Giustra
Clinton Foundation
Uranium One
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


4 posted on 02/17/2017 7:59:51 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

TRUE. She didn’t give it away. She sold it for personal profit for $150 million dollars!!


5 posted on 02/17/2017 8:00:30 AM PST by aragona (Truth always. America first. God given.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


6 posted on 02/17/2017 8:00:44 AM PST by rocksblues (The Obama administration WAS the most unlawful, corrupt administration in US history. But it's over.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

It’s not false ...what she gave them was 20% of Uranium production in the US...it’s true, Politifact is using a play on words to say it’s false.


7 posted on 02/17/2017 8:01:24 AM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: proust
Lemme guess, the real number was 25%. Trump lied again!! /s

The difference is between production and reserves. HRC gave them 20% of production.

A distinction with no difference in the grand scheme.

8 posted on 02/17/2017 8:02:17 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

“PolitiFact pointed out that 20 percent of uranium capacity is different from 20 percent of existing uranium. Moreover, the State Department was one of nine government agencies that had to sign off on the deals. Other federal and state regulators also had to approve them.”

And we don’t have documentation of bribery for the other eight sign-offs, so the one case where we can see bribery does not count.

As an aside, I wonder how much the uranium deal’s details on rights to explore for domestic uranium impacts the events like Bundy Ranch and the plans to survey near the Grand Canyon?


9 posted on 02/17/2017 8:02:34 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

” .... and the Obama administration was still trying to reset relations with Moscow at the time, ......

Fail.


10 posted on 02/17/2017 8:02:35 AM PST by boycott
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To: rocksblues; All

Only another deal in a long line of clinton deals
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/25/timeline-timeline-bill-clintons-trip-to-kazakhstan-followed-by-windfall-for-clinton-foundation/

Oh and Giustra the Canaduan mining mogul- also set up Hillarys brother Tony Rodham with rights to Haitian gold mining
Never ever let a humanitarian pot of money go to waste


11 posted on 02/17/2017 8:06:19 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: aragona

Beat me by that much. Yes, she didn’t give it away, there was a substantial profit. Hillary had invested 35 years of being abused by Willie Jeff and Berrik Osama, so she made a slight profit. Who would begrudge her a profit on her investment?


12 posted on 02/17/2017 8:06:56 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: MaxistheBest

Politifact “The claim isn’t true. Between 2009 and 2013, Russia’s atomic energy agency, Rosatom, purchased a majority stake in a Canadian company called Uranium One, The New York Times reported in 2015. The Toronto-based firm’s mining assets in Wyoming, Utah and elsewhere in the United States account for about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity, according to the Times.”

So they told us the truth while calling it false!


13 posted on 02/17/2017 8:07:00 AM PST by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Once again, President Trump has stated false information in order to play the media into reporting real news instead of fake news. In today’s press conference, President Trump stated, “We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country.” Eager to prove him wrong, CNBC corrected President Trump by saying Hillary did not give Russia 20% of US uranium; instead, she gave Russia 20% of US uranium production capacity. Oops.

From CNBC:

President Donald Trump repeated an incorrect claim on Thursday that Hillary Clinton gave Russia 20 percent of the United States’ uranium while serving as secretary of State.

The fact-checking website PolitiFact has determined that statement, which Trump first made on the campaign trail, is mostly false.

“We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It’s a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things,” Trump said during a press conference.

The claim isn’t true. Between 2009 and 2013, Russia’s atomic energy agency, Rosatom, purchased a majority stake in a Canadian company called Uranium One, The New York Times reported in 2015. The Toronto-based firm’s mining assets in Wyoming, Utah and elsewhere in the United States account for about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity, according to the Times.

Read more: (Link: www.cnbc.com)

President Trump just masterfully trolled CNBC into revealing some damaging info against Hillary

He gave false information to make the ‘very fake media’ fact check on it, therefore just proved that Hillary gave away 20% of ALL uranium to Russia...

See how that works???


14 posted on 02/17/2017 8:07:39 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: proust
"Lemme guess, the real number was 25%. Trump lied again!! /s"

It was 20% of production capacity, not 20% of what is theoretically still in the ground. And Hillary delegated an underling to actually sit in on the negotiations, as is probably the case most of the time. So, on Hillary's watch, with her approval, 20% of uranium production capacity went to the Russians. So the charge is "mostly true," not "mostly false," as Politifact claims.
15 posted on 02/17/2017 8:07:44 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

WOW, what a way to respond to being called FAKE NEWS, By Publishing even More FAKE NEWS that is Easily Debunked and Provable FALSE!


16 posted on 02/17/2017 8:08:14 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

PolitiFact is the same thing as Snopes.......both worthless.


17 posted on 02/17/2017 8:09:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

It’s actually true, she was in charge when we gave away 20% of our production - they can nit pick, but a fact is a fact.


18 posted on 02/17/2017 8:11:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Alright then, it was 25+%


19 posted on 02/17/2017 8:11:33 AM PST by wetgundog ("Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice" -AuH2O)
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To: silverleaf

President Trump should just retweet the failing NY Times story on Hillary’s uranium deal. LOL.


20 posted on 02/17/2017 8:15:07 AM PST by lodi90
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To: aragona
TRUE. She didn’t give it away. She sold it for personal profit for $150 million dollars!!

Post of the day!

21 posted on 02/17/2017 8:15:29 AM PST by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
Hillary Clinton gave

Clearly false and fake. Hillary got paid, well paid, for it. She did not give it away.

22 posted on 02/17/2017 8:17:06 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

She facilitated the sale for a fee.

Traitor!


23 posted on 02/17/2017 8:18:01 AM PST by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

She didn’t GIVE the uranuium to them.

She just scammed millions of dollars from them before they were permitted to purchase the company that already owned the rights.

Various people associated with the deal contributed over $100 millon US dollars to the Clinton Foundation before the US government approved the sale of the mining assets.

The mining company “Uranium One” already owned the mining rights for an estimated 20% of US reserves.

Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, sat on the board of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) that approved the sale of the assets to Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom.

Like other Clinton scams and criminal acts she managed to cloud the actual transaction and make it less than a straight forward quid pro quo to give it a certain amount of deniability.


24 posted on 02/17/2017 8:21:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (If Illegals voted Rebublican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall!")
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

I am a retired uranium exploration geologist with experience in Wyoming’s rich Powder River Basin province and in South Texas.

Let me point out that he “20% of production” and the “20% of reserves” is probably not much different in some ways. That’s because what is being produced is ore from the reserves that is practical to produce. There is lots of uranium around, it’s more common than you might think. It’s just that almost all of it is found in very low grade disseminated deposits. What the Russians “bought” [’bought off’ might be a better term] from Hillary was 20% of the ‘good stuff.’


25 posted on 02/17/2017 8:22:40 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

It is NOT mostly false... Cash to Clinton Uranium to Russia....

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


26 posted on 02/17/2017 8:23:49 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: MaxistheBest

Politifact is mostly not true.


27 posted on 02/17/2017 8:26:43 AM PST by IVAXMAN
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Twenty percent of uranium capacity vs twenty percent of existimg uranium...uhm...either could be charcterized as twenty percent of our uranuim...depending on if he meant our uranium capacity or our exiting uranium by saying “our uranium”.


28 posted on 02/17/2017 8:27:19 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
Even the RINOs at the Weekly Standard, quoting the NY Times, acknowledge Hitlery & the Clinton Foundation helped Russia get 20% of our uranium reserves!!

Key quote:

a New York Times report...last spring...discussed the key roles apparently played by both the Clinton Foundation and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Russia's successful acquisition of 20 percent of United States uranium reserves.

In a piece entitled, "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal" (or, in the print version, "The Clintons, The Russians, and Uranium"), the Times wrote of events that "brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain"....

Tom DiChristopher can cram it.

29 posted on 02/17/2017 8:28:00 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: MaxistheBest
Politifact is using a play on words to say it’s false.

Stuff like this tells one all they need to know about Politifact.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 02/17/2017 8:30:14 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

amazing...back at the time this was initially reported, almost everybody and their brother was reporting 20% of U.S. uranium. Hardly anybody reported that it was a Canadian firm doing the mining.

Just recently, Russia sold huge amounts of uranium to Iran.
I wonder where it came from...


31 posted on 02/17/2017 8:32:45 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

From the NYT article:

“The deal was strategically important to Mr. Putin, who shortly after the Americans gave their blessing sat down for a staged interview with Rosatom’s chief executive, Sergei Kiriyenko. “Few could have imagined in the past that we would own 20 percent of U.S. reserves,” Mr. Kiriyenko told Mr. Putin.”


But the candidate who actually won is a puppet of Moscow... sure...


32 posted on 02/17/2017 8:32:58 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: proust

I recall the Wyoming mine produced about 30%. It was treason on the Clinton’s part.


33 posted on 02/17/2017 8:40:31 AM PST by Lumper20 (Muslims, Latinos, Asians etc. Assimilate means learn English plus OUR WAYS!)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Politifact would call Trump announcement that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow mostly false!

Because technically the sun doesn’t rise. The Earth is circling the sun and only appears to rise from our prospective on earth.

lol


34 posted on 02/17/2017 8:45:46 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: DBrow

The Bundy Ranch fracas is really about water rights and land development. Harry Reid and his merry band of investors have plans that require bankrupting the Bundys so they can pick up their land and water rights on the cheap.

They see a vast touristy recreational area where they can sell condos and 2nd vacay homes and that damn melon farm along the river is in the way.


35 posted on 02/17/2017 8:55:03 AM PST by Valpal1 (I am enjoying the lamentations of their girly-men on social media.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; xsmommy; SoothingDave; NicknamedBob; SJackson

But the sun actually only rises “in the east” two days of the year: Spring Equinox (nominally March 22) and the Fall Equinox (Sept 22)!

The rest of the year, it rises in the northeast (March 23 to Sept 21), or the southeast (Sept 23 to March 21).

So, Trump’s “lie” about “the sun rises in the east” is ... mostly false?


36 posted on 02/17/2017 8:56:29 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So, Trump’s “lie” about “the sun rises in the east” is ... mostly false?

Yep, and the fake news media will chase this around like a cat chasing a flashlight light on the ground.

37 posted on 02/17/2017 8:58:33 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: proust

She didnt give it to them.

SHE SOLD IT TO THEM FOR PERSONAL GAIN.


38 posted on 02/17/2017 9:03:24 AM PST by Delta 21 (The minority demands NOTHING !)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
Dear so called "media press" liars...get OUT and STAY OUT of USA.

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39 posted on 02/17/2017 9:08:47 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

lol

exactly the type of parsing these liberal “fact check” sites use!

The FACT is .. liberals think they own the truth because they control the popular internet “fact checking” sites.


40 posted on 02/17/2017 9:11:04 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
Politifact, Weekly Standard, CNN, Pelosi, AP, Snopes, Brian Williams, Chelsea Clinton, Obama, Shemp, NYT says __________________: Image and video hosting by TinyPic
41 posted on 02/17/2017 9:11:47 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

They call this a Trump lie, when she got a comission on the deal and Bill got a 500 K speaking fee in Russia.

That is why these fact check sites are full of garbage.


42 posted on 02/17/2017 9:12:26 AM PST by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

This is a perfect example of why I just don’t believe ANYTHING in the regular media any longer... none


43 posted on 02/17/2017 9:48:45 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Correct, CNBC contradicts the NYT.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton...
... in the United States uranium sector ... mines around the world because Russia lacks ... by the United States while Hillary ...


44 posted on 02/17/2017 10:02:42 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Wow. “Mostly false” because there was no proven quid pro quo. Trump didn’t even say it was quid pro quo. He just let the facts speak for themselves. He didn’t say “because,” he just said “while.”


45 posted on 02/17/2017 10:12:00 AM PST by dangus
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Politifact would call Trump announcement that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow mostly false!

Because technically the sun doesn’t rise. The Earth is circling the sun and only appears to rise from our prospective on earth.

lol

*******

I was thinking Politifact would debunk it thusly:

Unless “tomorrow” is the Vernal or Autumnal Equinox, the Sun does not rise in the direct East. The other 363 days (364 days in a leap year) the sunrise will be north or south of the due east line. Conclusion: Trump lied again!


46 posted on 02/17/2017 10:19:19 AM PST by leftcoaster
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

“PolitiFact pointed out that 20 percent of uranium capacity is different from 20 percent of existing uranium.”

LMAO, nobody ever said we sold Russia our Uranium stockpiles, dummies.


47 posted on 02/17/2017 10:38:00 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

There’s that Fake News again!


48 posted on 02/17/2017 1:00:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

cnbc fake news


49 posted on 02/17/2017 1:19:46 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Doc91678

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton...";

Even the NYT has detailed how shady this deal was and how it was facilitated by CASH paid to the Clintons and their foundation.


50 posted on 02/17/2017 3:57:29 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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