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Trump’s Meeting with the Saudi Prince Is Being Praised as a ‘Historical Turning Point’
Fortune ^ | March 14, 2017 | Reuters

Posted on 03/15/2017 1:11:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Saudi Arabia hailed a "historical turning point" in U.S.- Saudi relations after a meeting between U.S. President Donald Trump and Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman highlighted the two leaders' shared view that Iran posed a regional security threat.

The meeting on Tuesday appeared to signal a meeting of the minds on many issues between Trump and Prince Mohammed, in a marked difference from Riyadh's often fraught relationship with the Obama administration, especially in the wake of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

"This meeting is considered a historical turning point in relations between both countries and which had passed through a period of divergence of views on many issues," a senior adviser to Prince Mohammed said in a statement.

"But the meeting today restored issues to their right path and form a big change in relations between both countries in political, military, security and economic issues," the adviser said....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arabia; iran; mideast; saudiarabia; trump
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But I was told that Mr. Obama was a consummate diplomat and the "adult" in the room.
1 posted on 03/15/2017 1:11:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right. How will we ever get the ME to love and accept us without all of that bowing and scraping?


2 posted on 03/15/2017 1:13:38 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose; 2ndDivisionVet

Well that’s great to know!!!

What do ya know? We’re gonna be pals!

Now I don’t have to give a fu.. about my two firemen friends who died, or any of the other 3000, or the Beautiful Towers I worked in being savagely destroyed.

That’s water under the mother ####ing bridge.

Let’s move on and be friends.

Even after a Saudi funded terror attack takes place again.

New boss the same as the old boss in this instance.

And A president from NYC. Heartbreaking.


3 posted on 03/15/2017 1:23:28 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Saudis are not friends.


4 posted on 03/15/2017 1:28:30 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: dp0622

Dude, I understand your point, but remember the Saudis DID play THE pivotal role making it possible for Reagan to break the back of the Soviet Union.

You don’t piss that away just because their dog takes a dump in your yard.


5 posted on 03/15/2017 1:34:12 AM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: dp0622

He’s the president of the United States, not the president
of Staten Island.


6 posted on 03/15/2017 1:35:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: dp0622; Ray76

Maybe you read it more thoroughly than I did but I cannot find anything about being friends or pals with the Saudis in this article. Looks Trump did quite well.


7 posted on 03/15/2017 1:38:54 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

They came to kiss the ring. IE. Vassals.

Big diff to Bambi visiting them and bowing.


8 posted on 03/15/2017 1:43:32 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: dp0622

See #8 and then google the term vassal.


9 posted on 03/15/2017 1:45:29 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: dp0622
Remember Dhimmi Carter and the Iranian hostage crisis?

And the IEDs in Iraq with components showing they were assembled by Iran?

The difference is, Saudi Arabia is a bunch of rich princes at the top, trying to hold in check a low-skill populace by buying them off with oil money; and IIRC, with several cities very important to Islam in their territory, which confers on them legitimacy.

They are trying to hold off militant Islam sects ("Wahabbi"-ism) from toppling them from power, by funding missionary efforts overseas. But it is not official government policy; and, the House of Saud remembers we saved them from Saddam Hussein.

Iran is likewise feeding militant Islamic sects, but officially, as government policy; and then there's the whole Sunni vs. Shia thing, which apparently sets Iran and the Saudis against each other, as long as there's nobody else more important to kill, like Jews, Christians, or Westerners.

I think Iran in its own way is trying to become the seat of new Caliphate; as is Turkey in its own way.

10 posted on 03/15/2017 1:45:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
To make it simple to you it means their asses are this: فلاح الإقطاع
11 posted on 03/15/2017 1:49:17 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Yep and when the NORKS go to far and the glass factory set up on their southern border makes glass.....

The crap is over.


12 posted on 03/15/2017 1:51:50 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: dp0622
And A president from NYC. Heartbreaking.

NYC hates him. In 2016:

  1. Brooklyn: 595,086 Clinton to 133,653 Trump.
  2. Manhattan: 515,481 to 58,935.
  3. Queens: 473,289 to 138,550.
  4. Staten Island: 67,561 to 95,612. Ding Ding Ding : the Donald wins a borough!
  5. The Bronx: 318,403 to 34,424.

It's New Yawk values, dontcha know!

13 posted on 03/15/2017 1:57:36 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and I also thought Trump was gonna make all Mooselimbs hate us!


14 posted on 03/15/2017 1:58:25 AM PDT by ErikJohnsky
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To: papertyger

SA should be taking in ME refugees, not funding jihadis in Syria.


15 posted on 03/15/2017 1:59:27 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Captain Obvious pays both men a visit


16 posted on 03/15/2017 2:00:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Paladin2

If they could get around the hateful-Islam problem they could.


17 posted on 03/15/2017 2:01:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: dp0622

This is extremely different from both Bush 1&2 and Obama bowing and scraping and kissing Saudi rings

President Trump has made it clear they owe US money & allegiance for our protection......plus more

And they came here to let him know they got the message

Trump walks softly but carries a BIG STICK


18 posted on 03/15/2017 2:13:31 AM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can’t vet taqiyya.


19 posted on 03/15/2017 2:36:53 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Read it:
"But the meeting today restored issues to their right path and form a big change in relations between both countries in political, military, security and economic issues," the adviser said.

Saudi Arabia had viewed with unease the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama, whom they felt considered Riyadh's alliance with Washington less important than negotiating the Iran nuclear deal.

Riyadh and other Gulf allies see in Trump a strong president who will shore up Washington’s role as their main strategic partner and help contain Riyadh's adversary Iran in a region central to U.S. security and energy interests, regional analysts said.


20 posted on 03/15/2017 2:48:34 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Paladin2

Seems to me it’s a good thing to have Krekar’s sect of Wahabis fighting Syrian Baathists and Iran’s nastiest Shiites.


21 posted on 03/15/2017 3:11:11 AM PDT by piasa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama betrayed the Saudis by thinking he could bridge the Sunni /Shia gap. The Iran deal was a disater for the Saudis. Now Saudi has Shiites controlling Iraq, and mcuh of Yemen. The Shia are prepsring to take Mecca.

Now America is back on to supporting the Sunna only, while protecting Saudi and helping the Saudis to diversify their economy.


22 posted on 03/15/2017 3:15:59 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only Historical Turning Point I want to hear about is the commencement of bombing 9/11’s HQ in Riyadh.


23 posted on 03/15/2017 3:43:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: Paladin2
SA should be taking in ME refugees, not funding jihadis in Syria.

Heck, the Saudis are funding jihad factories (mosques) in the U.S. They are funding the open teaching and propagandizing of is slime in public schools.

The Saudis are our enemy. What would be historical, and a nice change of pace, is if Trump nuked them as payback for 9/11.

24 posted on 03/15/2017 4:36:51 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are new people, new generation in Saudi government.

In the recent past Saudi-US relations were based on payments to politicians.

With payments to the losing politicians no in the past, the new relations can be based on mutual self-interest ... and on reality.


25 posted on 03/15/2017 4:42:09 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: CincyRichieRich
You can’t vet taqiyya

THREAD WINNER!

Anyone who thinks the Saudis or any other islamic state are our "friends" are smoking commo wire. Their end state is a global caliphate by whatever means Allah wills.

26 posted on 03/15/2017 4:49:43 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: TADSLOS

Saw this guy on Bret Baier. Looks like Obama. Talks a good game while saying nothing. I wouldn’t trust him.


27 posted on 03/15/2017 4:51:01 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: dp0622

This is the Saudi War King.. he isn’t any of the lightweights from years ago. I see your rationale, but America stopped thinking about that on 9/13. I think know your enemies is warranted here. This guy was not responsible for 9/11.. but he holds enormous power and is an actionable power player.


28 posted on 03/15/2017 4:53:05 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: Paladin2

Do you think they’re STUPID?


29 posted on 03/15/2017 4:59:38 AM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The House of Saud has always played a double game—but I think they have met their match and more.


30 posted on 03/15/2017 5:01:50 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"For example, he said, Trump is unlikely to mount a major, costly effort to counter Iranian influence in Iraq, or to launch a full-scale campaign to oust Syrian President Bashar al Assad, as Riyadh might wish."

For now, these two boats of have sailed thanks to Obama. We'll have to work with Assad now. As for countering Iranian influence in Iraq, the only way I think we can do that is to get a new SOFA agreement after they kick ISIS out of Iraq. We need to have probably 10,000 troops stationed in Iraq. Sorry guys, it's not as good a duty station (not even close) as Germany or Okinawa, but it's gotta be done. We don't need troops in Germany, we need them in Iraq. That doesn't mean they are going on patrol outside the camp, it means they stay on their bases and train and stand ready. Just in case they are needed.

As for our other little problem, we need the Saudis to clean this situation in Yemen up most ricki tick to use an old Marine Corps saying. Whatever we can do to assist them to get Yemen back up and running with something that can be called a working government, we need to do. Otherwise, it's just going to be the next ISIS headquarters.
31 posted on 03/15/2017 5:06:41 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: FreedomNotSafety
I cannot find anything about being friends or pals with the Saudis in this article. Looks Trump did quite well.

Trump: "OK Pallie, here's how it's gonna be.

In exchange for your oil (which we don't need by the way) we'll give you soap, deodorant, decent clothes and TOILET PAPER....all of which you obviously do need, big league..."

(phhhwew....holding nose)

32 posted on 03/15/2017 5:09:23 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

He’s a muslim, so.....yeah, trust is the first thing to throw out. These moon god believers lie at the drop of a kufi. Whatever it takes to advance islam.


33 posted on 03/15/2017 5:11:50 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And tomorrow will be sunny and bright on Uranus......BS.

Do not trust these stealing lying pos muslim goat humpers. They are the ones that turn the screws and pay the bills on the ruination of our country by the invading hordes.

The only good thing President Trump could have told them was, "One lil misstep and on the list you go, muzzie."

34 posted on 03/15/2017 5:15:29 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: TADSLOS

Which means Bush was either low IQ by accident or not really and is a traitor.

0bama is just a muzzie traitor as is Jeh Johnson, Jarrett, Brennen, and likely IMO, hundreds more, some still present.


You can’t vet taqiyya

THREAD WINNER!

Anyone who thinks the Saudis or any other islamic state are our “friends” are smoking commo wire. Their end state is a global caliphate by whatever means Allah wills.


35 posted on 03/15/2017 5:29:31 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: dp0622

do you enjoy the snake handlers in your church on Sunday mornings?


36 posted on 03/15/2017 5:32:30 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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EXCLUSIVE: Persian Gulf Sheikhs Gave Bill & Hillary $100 Million [VIDEO]

A Daily Caller News Foundation investigation reveals that Bill and Hillary Clinton received at least $100 million from autocratic Persian Gulf states and their leaders, potentially undermining Democratic presidential candidate Hillary’s claim she can carry out independent Middle East policies.

As a presidential candidate, the amount of foreign cash the Clintons have amassed from the Persian Gulf states is “simply unprecedented,” says national security analyst Patrick Poole. “These regimes are buying access. You’ve got the Saudis. You’ve got the Kuwaitis, Oman, Qatar and the UAE. There are massive conflicts of interest. It’s beyond comprehension,” Poole told TheDCNF in an interview.

Overall, the Clinton Foundation has received upwards of $85 million in donations from five Persian Gulf states and their monarchs, according to the foundation’s website. Activist groups have charged the five states — Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) — committed numerous human rights abuses.

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AND THIS---Course, this is just a wild guess on my part (smirk), but I don't think the Saudi Royals like being jerked around by a coupla hicks from Arkansas.

The Saudis put hundreds of millions into the Clintons pockets when she was Secy of State, thinking she'd be president. Must be a lot of nay-saying in the desert now that the Clintons are political dead meat.

==================================================

Turns out the Saudis helped stage Hillary's election night "victory"---giving her a huge expensive flat screen TV supposedly to air her crashing through a symbolic 500,000 dollar glass ceiling. (This from a kingdom where women are not allowed to drive).

Saudi Arabia Funded 20% Of Hillary's Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims
Zerohedge ^ | Jun 14, 2016 3:57 AM | Tyler Durden / FR Posted by xzins

(NOTE: It is illegal in the United States for foreign countries to try to influence the outcome of elections by funding candidates. That appears not to have stopped the Saudis, however.)

“Saudi Arabia provided with full enthusiasm 20 percent of the cost of Hillary Clinton’s election"......the report quoted Saudi Prince Mohammed as having said. According to the US Federal Election commission, over the past two years Clinton has raised a little more than $211.8 million. 20% of this sum is $42.4 million.

The Saudi Press Agency reported on Monday that the senior royal was due to fly to Washington where he will meet Obama admin officials to discuss US-Saudi ties.

--SNIP--

Links between Saudi Arabia and the Clinton family, including with Hillary’s campaign, are well reported. In 2008, it was revealed that the Gulf kingdom had donated between $10m and $25m to the Clinton Foundation, a charity set up by Hillary’s husband and former US President Bill Clinton.

Last year the Centre for Studies and Media Affairs at the Saudi Royal Court paid public relations firm the Podesta Group $200,000 for a month- long project to provide “public relations services”. The Podesta Group was founded in 1988 by brothers John and Tony Podesta. John Podesta is the chair of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

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Saudi Royals greet then-Secy Hillary (she checks to make sure she's on-camera).
The pay-to-play suck-up begins.

POINTS TO PONDER Obama's cut of the Saudi monies must have been substantial. B/c Pres Obama and Secy Hillary Clinton approved a record $100 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia

37 posted on 03/15/2017 5:32:39 AM PDT by Liz (DNC Chair Perez's new Democrat slogan: Join us, or we'll sue Trump. W w)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“..We need to have probably 10,000 troops stationed in Iraq....”

great point - remember that in the aftermath of WWII, it was keeping a substantial military force in Europe and Japan that a relative peace was maintained for many years.


38 posted on 03/15/2017 5:43:19 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Liz

And Hillary’s buddies, the Saudis, are into raping and killing little boys in basements, so I’ve heard. They, like Hillary, worship at the altar of the He/She goat god and do the “spirit cooking” and rituals. I am sure that the major international child-trafficking rings, like the Clinton’s in Haiti (Silsby), supplied the Saudis with some little boys and girls for some of those millions

Interesting that the Saudis were paying the “the Podesta Group $200,000 for a month- long project to provide “public relations services”” Hmmmmm. Didn’t Andrew Breitbart ‘tweet’ that Podesta was trafficking little children before he was conveniently Xed out?


39 posted on 03/15/2017 5:45:49 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Ray76

you are mistaken and ignorant of reality

We have had a military presence in Saudi Arabia since the 1940’s

The O Club in Dhahran was about the only place to get a drink in the kingdom


40 posted on 03/15/2017 5:46:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: CincyRichieRich

You have happened on a phrase you think meaningful. You overlook all democrats that consistently lie.


41 posted on 03/15/2017 5:49:05 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: elpadre
"remember that in the aftermath of WWII, it was keeping a substantial military force in Europe and Japan that a relative peace was maintained for many years."

Zactly, to McCain's credit he tried splaining this during his 2008 Presidential run and NoBama was having none of it. Well, we see where his plan ended. After WWII, all of the Germans and Japanese didn't suddenly become lovers of western style liberal democracy. It took many years to drain the fascist strains out of these two countries. The best way we can counter Iranian influence in Iraq and start them onto something like a functioning responsible country is to have troops there, have a stake in it. When Obama cut us loose, they looked for a new benefactor, the Iranians.

Some might say they don't care what happens in Iraq or Iran. Well, if we don't calm the Gulf States fears in the region, we could easily have a nuclear arms race develop to counter Iran.
42 posted on 03/15/2017 5:52:38 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: bert

You have happened on a phrase you think meaningful. You overlook all democrats that consistently lie.
...
No, the context was Muslim.
I didn’t overlook democrats...on the contrary, just like fake news, i assume if their lips are moving, then they are lying.


43 posted on 03/15/2017 5:54:02 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Drain the swamp. Build the wall. Open the Pizzagate. I refuse to inhabit any safe space.)
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To: cynwoody

The inhabitants of the city where he was born, or at least the white, non-Jewish population of that city, has departed, except for Staten Island, southern Brooklyn, and a few areas elsewhere within the city limits, the “red” areas in the electoral map. The New York accent is dying out, with the speech of Trump and Bernie Sanders sounding anachronistic in 2017.


44 posted on 03/15/2017 5:54:47 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: CincyRichieRich

The entire globalist Bush clan and their surrogates are in deep with the arab camp.


45 posted on 03/15/2017 5:57:47 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: dp0622

We have had a close and productive relationship with the Saudis for a long time beginning with FDR. It is in our national strategic interests to continue to do so.


46 posted on 03/15/2017 6:22:20 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Ray76

The Saudis are not our enemies.


47 posted on 03/15/2017 6:23:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Ray76

I read your excerpt which now makes the second time and I Still don’t see anything about pals or friends. I cannot even see it as being g implied.


48 posted on 03/15/2017 6:25:17 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: bert

It needs to end


49 posted on 03/15/2017 9:00:37 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: kabar

Right. /s


50 posted on 03/15/2017 9:01:05 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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