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While We Await the Courtís Ruling on Masterpiece Cakes, A Dose of Reality from India
Townhall.com ^ | December 6, 2017 | Michael Brown

Posted on 12/06/2017 4:39:38 AM PST by Kaslin

The Supreme Court has now heard the arguments in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case, a case that pits gay rights against religious rights. But a ruling is not expected until June 2018. That gives us plenty of time to ask ourselves, “Would I lose my livelihood because of my religious convictions? Am I willing to suffer for my faith?”

In America, an increasing number of Christians have answered yes to that question, including Jack Philips of Masterpiece Cakeshop. People like this should be commended for their steadfastness and should serve as examples to the rest of the Church: We show love to all, and we serve all unless we are called to violate our sacred convictions in that service. In that case, we politely decline, knowing there might be serious consequences.

At the same time, for the sake of our children and their children, we fight for our liberties, knowing that it is in the best interest of the Church and the nation to preserve those liberties.

Yet no one is holding a literal gun to our heads and threatening to kill us unless we deny Jesus. No one is threatening to behead our families if we refuse to compromise our convictions.

But in other parts of the world, like India from which I write these words, believers are paying with their lives.

For the last 25 years, beginning in 1993, I have traveled to India to work with Love-N-Care Ministries, presiding every year over their ministry school graduation, at which time we lay hands on the graduates and send them out to plant churches, especially in unreached areas.

Several years ago, one of their pastors was beaten to death by Hindu radicals, and some months later, I, along with others, literally washed the feet of this martyr’s widow. It was one of the most moving moments of my life. (This was the emotional, live broadcast I did from India later that week.)

At that same service, we met another widow and her daughter. Her husband, also a pastor, was beheaded with an ax, while she was forced to watch. He was killed by the Naxalites, radical Communists who are under constant attack by the government.

Just today, as some of the older pastors were sharing reports about the ministry’s work – Love-N-Care has planted more than 7,000 churches, along with built schools, hospitals, and other humanitarian works – I learned that several more of their tribal pastors had been killed. I was told the number is up to five now (if not more). And although the hardline Hindu government does not carry out these attacks, the violence is encouraged because of the government’s aggressive, anti-Christian policies.

Yet these Indian Christians are not complaining. They know that following Jesus can be costly, and they have already signed up to serve the Lord whether by life or by death.

My friend, Pastor Yesupadam, who leads the ministry here (and in other countries), told me that the tribal pastors, most of whom are barely in their 20s, will die without hesitation for the gospel. And Yesupadam, who himself was once stoned for preaching, will not hesitate to lay down his life for Jesus.

A few months back, he joined me on the radio with his Canadian wife, Monika. (His first wife, an Indian, died in the mid-1990s and had two children. He and Monika have been married about 20 years and have two children of their own.)

During that interview, Yesupadam spoke about the increased persecution in India and the possibility that he might have to take a stand for the Lord in his city, resulting in his death. He assured me that he was quite ready to do so.

When I asked Monika how she felt hearing those words, she replied calmly that, from the first day they talked about marriage, he told her that he could be martyred at any time. This is the reality she has had to live with.

And that’s why, before Yesupadam baptizes people in water, he asks them: Are you willing to follow Jesus, even to your last breath and your last drop of blood? In similar fashion, a Christian worker in the Middle East told me before they baptize a former Muslim, they ask him or her, “Are you willing to suffer for Jesus? Are you willing to die for Jesus?” If they don’t answer yes, they are not baptized.

Several years ago, one of the grads from our own ministry school in the States was killed by radical Muslims while serving in the Middle East. Since then, we have seen a sharp increase in our grads going to those parts of the world to reach Muslims with the good news of Jesus and to serve them in the midst of war and suffering. And around the world, every day of the week, our brothers and sisters are paying a tremendous price for their faith. Yet the Church continues to grow in the midst of suffering and pain and loss.

That same night in India when we washed the feet of the two widows, we also washed the feet of several dozen pastors who had been beaten for their faith or were being threatened for their faith. It was a sober time with lots of tears. Yet when that part of the meeting was over, the music began to change and, before you knew it, everyone was on their feet, and these men were literally dancing for joy. They were excited that they had the privilege of suffering for Jesus! (See Matthew 5:10-12, among many other passages.)

Of course, they also pray for their beloved India, that the government will have a change of heart and allow true religious freedoms, just as we pray for our Supreme Court and government in America.

But let us remember that it is a costly thing to follow Jesus. It might cost us our reputations, our freedoms, our incomes, and even our lives. So be it! If we lose our lives in this world, we gain them forever.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: christianity; faith; india; jesus; martydom; persecution; salvation
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1 posted on 12/06/2017 4:39:39 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

This guy was on FOX this morning with his attorney...

both of them mentioned that he couldn’t make a cake with those words and symbols...but didn’t explain what they were...though I waited to find out...

what words ??? what symbols ???

Personally I got fed up with the mystery...

I decided I’m not sympathetic with this guy...

why should I be when I don’t really know the reason why I should be ???


2 posted on 12/06/2017 4:48:38 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

Since Modi was elected there has been a HUGE rise in Hindu attacks on other religions.. All my Christian Indian friends hate him with a passion... I guess they probably have a good reason...


3 posted on 12/06/2017 4:55:39 AM PST by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Why should he advertise the beliefs he finds reprehensible?


4 posted on 12/06/2017 4:57:03 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Kaslin

Why does it take months for the justices to rule?


5 posted on 12/06/2017 5:03:18 AM PST by FES0844 (G)
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To: Kaslin

“But let us remember that it is a costly thing to follow Jesus.” If a man (or woman) wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus, he will be persecuted, wrote the apostle Paul. My wife and I may soon be housing a Christian refugee from Iraq who fled after she converted and her family threatened to kill her. A Christian knows that to trade away Jesus for a life of comfort is a terrible trade. Such people who have born the burden teach us who have known little.


6 posted on 12/06/2017 5:07:50 AM PST by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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To: uscga77

Signing up to be a Christian is signing up for suffering. That is the primary motif.


7 posted on 12/06/2017 5:16:24 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin
Yet no one is holding a literal gun to our heads and threatening to kill us unless we deny Jesus.

The author is wrong.

The complainers called a government official to rain potential violence on the bakers head.

Eventually that will include someone from the government who will use a gun to enforce compliance, even at the cost of a persons life.

There are many examples of that right here in the US.

8 posted on 12/06/2017 5:20:03 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Kaslin

Meanwhile the Pope chastises Trump for recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel and disturbing the “ status quo” ( usurpers)


9 posted on 12/06/2017 5:23:32 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Kaslin

Later.


10 posted on 12/06/2017 5:24:14 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
As soon as I heard they walked out of the shop and cried...that was enough for me.

Decorate your own damn cake. I'm sick of you folks.

Do what you want....Leave us out of it.

11 posted on 12/06/2017 5:27:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

So Religious rights and Free Speech rights are black and white and undeniably explicitly written clearly in the Constitution, First Amendment. Where exactly is the homosexual amendment? How is this even a contest???? Outrageous!


12 posted on 12/06/2017 5:31:13 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: Kaslin; wyowolf

The BJP government appears to have gotten caught buying votes in Gujarat. They had literally stuffed the ballot books with money, and there is increasingly significant evidence that they have been tampering with the Electronic Voting Machines, so that votes for other parties are getting recorded as votes for BJP. There apparently will now be a full re-vote in Gujarat using paper ballots.

This, plus the disastrous demonetization, the GST, and other missteps have largely soured the public on the BJP, and there is a good chance the INC will carry the next national election.

This in turn should drain away a goodly amount of the nationalist/radical hinduist sentiment.


13 posted on 12/06/2017 5:37:01 AM PST by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

From what my family tells me voting buying in one form or another is VERY common there. Esp in Tamil Nadu...

Demonetization was pretty much hated as well, the rich all had advanced warning to they didnt lose very much, the poorer folks suffered quite a bit.

I was really surprised at how much Modi was hated by the Christians there, and the ones here as well.


14 posted on 12/06/2017 5:43:16 AM PST by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I'm sorry?

It's doesn't take but 2 seconds thought to accurately envision a gay wedding cake with two males as the cake-topper and the word "Congratulations." 100% what you'd expect. Pretty standard.

And that's offensive.


15 posted on 12/06/2017 5:48:41 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the pollution.)
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To: FES0844

“Why does it take months for the justices to rule?”

It doesn’t. Rush had a talk with one of the justices, either Thomas or Scalia and they told him it takes about a day or two to make the decision. The rest of the time is writing the opinion, and then timing the release for ‘maximum effect’.

The last part, about the timing, is my input, because I can’t see why they always wait until the last day of the term before releasing the ‘big’ opinions, like Obamacare - but the rest was from the interview.

I pretty much confirmed this when the fireworks went off right after the first Obamacare case. The Dems melted down within days and were hysterical. Obviously someone tipped them off that they had lost. Then, later, Roberts flipped (for whatever reason) and Obamacare was saved. That’s why people think that some entity has control over Roberts at least in the rulings that are really important to the Left.


16 posted on 12/06/2017 5:49:44 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: FES0844

They have to make sure it won’t conflict with previous rulings, make deals, write opinions, etc.
Just think of all the problems a few commas cause us in the Second Amendment. That is what they are trying to avoid.


17 posted on 12/06/2017 5:55:43 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: BobL

Interesting. Thank you!


18 posted on 12/06/2017 5:56:55 AM PST by FES0844 (G)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The words were “Holy Matrimony” with the symbol of two men kissing.


19 posted on 12/06/2017 5:57:22 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Is that what it was ???

I waited for the guy to say this morning but he didn’t...

he could have describe that...

It wasn’t offensive to say on TV...


20 posted on 12/06/2017 6:14:20 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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