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Army Basic Training to Drop Hand Grenade Competency as Graduation Requirement
cnsnews ^ | February 13, 2018 | Craig Bannister

Posted on 02/15/2018 5:53:54 AM PST by MarvinStinson

The U.S. Army will drop its hand grenade competency requirement for graduation from basic training because getting recruits to pass it is taking “too much time” and they’re just not strong enough, Major General Malcolm Frost told reporters on Friday.

Changes to the Army’s Basic Combat Training (BTC) will eliminate the current hand grenade proficiency standards as a requirement for graduation, Military.com reports:

“The new BCT does, however, do away with hand grenade qualification and land navigation course qualification as graduation requirements.”

Discussing the change with reporters, Maj. Gen. Frost explained that training recruits to pass the current requirement was taking too much time:

"What we have found is it is taking far, far too much time. It's taking three to four times as much time ... just to qualify folks on the hand grenade course than we had designated so what is happening is it is taking away from other aspects of training.”

Plus, trainees just aren’t strong enough to throw the grenade far enough away – and simply can’t be taught to properly throw a grenade “if they haven’t thrown growing up” – Maj. Gen. Frost explained:

"We are finding that there are a large number of trainees that come in that quite frankly just physically don't have the capacity to throw a hand grenade 20 to 25 to 30 meters. In 10 weeks, we are on a 48-hour period; you are just not going to be able to teach someone how to throw if they haven't thrown growing up."

Still, the amount of grenade training won’t be reduced – developing enough proficiency to meet the current standards just won’t be required - Maj. Gen. Frost said:

"Just because we took it off as a graduation requirement does not mean they won't be conducting hand grenade or land navigation training."

“They are going to learn all the technical aspects of the hand grenade, and they are going to learn tactical employment and they will throw a live hand grenade.”

As Army Times reports, in order to save time trying to teach trainees to meet requirements, hand grenade training will be blended into other exercises:

“Rather than spend time getting soldiers through the hand grenade and land navigation qualification courses in order to graduate basic, those skills will be incorporated into three new field training exercises, dubbed Hammer, Anvil and Forge.”


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KEYWORDS: grenade; regulation; trumpdod; usarmy; usmilitary
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1 posted on 02/15/2018 5:53:55 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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a large number of trainees that come in that quite frankly just physically don't have the capacity to throw a hand grenade 20 to 25 to 30 meters

oy vey

2 posted on 02/15/2018 5:56:43 AM PST by tomkat
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To: 444Flyer; Buttons12; higgmeister; Iron Munro; Fiddlstix; madison10; brucedickinson; Castigar; ...

Welcome to the Girl Scouts.


3 posted on 02/15/2018 5:57:33 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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Because girls can’t throw as far as boys.


4 posted on 02/15/2018 5:57:37 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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“Engineering Schools to drop math competency as Graduation requirement.”


5 posted on 02/15/2018 5:58:33 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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6 posted on 02/15/2018 5:58:57 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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They are all used to the controller button doing that for them.


7 posted on 02/15/2018 5:59:38 AM PST by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isn’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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I guess Basic Training isn’t what it used to be. Those that couldn’t meet standards were recycled until they could or were tossed out.


8 posted on 02/15/2018 6:00:12 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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bmp


9 posted on 02/15/2018 6:00:31 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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10 posted on 02/15/2018 6:01:44 AM PST by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Oh my, that is pathetically good !


11 posted on 02/15/2018 6:02:32 AM PST by tomkat
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I like the way the guy on the left grabs her and throws her in the safety pit.


12 posted on 02/15/2018 6:02:55 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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Surely to god you’d learn to throw a dummy grenade first? That technique was pathetic and she shouldn’t have been allowed anywhere near live one until she learned how to throw it properly.


13 posted on 02/15/2018 6:03:06 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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“...Drop Hand Grenade...”

I see what they did there. ;)


14 posted on 02/15/2018 6:03:08 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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...trainees just aren’t strong enough to throw the grenade far enough away...

Please, please tell me this satire...parody, fake...SOMEthing other than what they really said!

What the hell has my Army turned into?

I am appalled that a GO in the US Army would actually state to a media outlet of ANY kind, that we would have a failure in training of this nature.

For Pete's sake, General, get your DI's off their ass and make them do their job...and spend as much time as necessary to accomplish the training...all training.

But no, you politically correct sons of bitches would prefer to get your 3 minutes of fame by publicizing every damned failure we may have in our training.

Do you not think someone may be listening?

Stupid!

The more the little bastards sweat in training, the less they will bleed in battle, General.

What part of that do you not understand?

15 posted on 02/15/2018 6:03:16 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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The COMMANDER IN CHIEF
16 posted on 02/15/2018 6:03:23 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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For the most part female, if we could see the stats.


17 posted on 02/15/2018 6:03:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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This is sad. Not strong enough? If that gif-clip is real, that “person” is not even throwing the grenade correctly. This has to be a joke....satire. George Patton is probably turning over in his grave....


18 posted on 02/15/2018 6:05:13 AM PST by EagleUSA
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I love how he threw her into the pit and jumped in after. What a pro!!


19 posted on 02/15/2018 6:05:38 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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“Engineering Schools to drop math competency as Graduation requirement.”

I believe that there is at least one idiot (math “education” type) that does want to change the math requirements because math is too male and too white.

For her, 2 + 2 must equal 6 for large values of 2 as 2 approaches 3.
And prime numbers must be banned because they are exclusionary.


20 posted on 02/15/2018 6:05:56 AM PST by Da Coyote
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