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The CIA, Obama, and Soros vs. Democracy ^ | February 25, 2018 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 02/25/2018 5:33:13 AM PST by Kaslin

Is American foreign policy so foreign to our values that those who have served at the very pinnacle of the national intelligence agencies have trouble telling the truth?

“Have we ever tried to meddle in other countries’ elections?” Laura Ingraham, host of Fox News’ The Ingraham Angle, asked James Woolsey, director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from 1993 to 1995, during President Clinton’s first term.

“Oh, probably,” Mr. Woolsey replied. “But, uh, it was for the good of the system, in order to avoid communists from taking over. For example, in Europe in ’47-’48-’49, the Greeks and the Italians, we, the CIA—”

“We don’t do that now, though?” Ingraham interjected. “We don’t mess around in other people’s elections, Jim?”

“Well . . . urrrrr, yum, yum, yum, um, um, um” the old spymaster mouthed to laughter from both Ingraham and her studio cameramen.

“Only for a very good cause,” he added with a sly grin, “and the interests of democracy.”

Interests. Of. Democracy.

I think I hear my cameraman laughing.

Foreign Policy magazine tells us that documents declassified in 2017 “shed light on the Central Intelligence Agency’s central role in the 1953 coup that brought down [elected] Iranian Prime Minister Muhammad Mossadegh, fueling a surge of nationalism which culminated in the 1979 Iranian Revolution and poisoning U.S.-Iran relations into the 21st century.”

It was hardly an aberration. The following year, the CIA covertly bombed Guatemala City and deposed that country’s elected president. In the 1964 Chile election, declassified documents show the U.S. gave “large sums” of money to the winning candidate. The CIA admits to planting both true and false stories into Nicaraguan newspapers in 1990.

“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” explained Loch Johnson, dubbed the dean of American intelligence scholars. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”

The U.S. government could not stop itself from interfering in the 1996 Russian election on behalf of then-President Boris Yeltsin. The New York Times carried an illuminating exchange regarding the thinking, or lack thereof, behind our meddling: “Thomas Carothers, a scholar at the Carnegie Institute for International Peace, recalls arguing with a State Department official who told him at the time, ‘Yeltsin is democracy in Russia,’ to which Mr. Carothers said he replied, ‘That’s not what democracy means.’”

Need more? Dov Levin, a Post Doctoral Fellow at Carnegie-Mellon University’s Institute for Politics and Strategy, has compiled a handy database that lists undemocratic and illegal shenanigans going on and on through the ’60s, ’70s, ’80s, up through President Obama to today.

Just how high and low does this go? Well, American Spectator credits WorldNetDaily’s Jerome Corsi with documenting that Barack Obama got in on the game early. Yes, even before he was president, “Obama, as a U.S. Senator, illegally used a taxpayer-financed trip to campaign for far-left presidential candidate Raila Odinga in Kenya’s 2006 elections.”

“By 2010,” according to the Spectator story, “this tribal connection resulted in President Obama quietly transferring millions of U.S. tax dollars to Odinga’s government, including $2 million to convince Kenyan voters to vote for a new constitution.”

This time last year, Judicial Watch was finally able to obtain documents in a lawsuit, which showed that since 2012 “the U.S. government has quietly spent millions of taxpayer dollars to destabilize the democratically elected, center-right government in Macedonia by colluding with leftwing, billionaire philanthropist George Soros.”

The New York Times disclosed that U.S. money and influence has been used to alter elections in both Iraq and Afghanistan. When considering the animosity former Afghan President Hamid Karzai has expressed toward the U.S., remember that former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, in his memoir, described the U.S. attempt to defeat Karzai as “our clumsy and failed putsch.”

Defenders of U.S. overt and covert election-related activities in other countries claim that U.S. interventions have “generally been aimed at . . . promoting democracy.” So, why can’t the former CIA director address this policy with a straight face?

Well, “generally” being pro-democracy — except when overthrowing democratically elected officials to install authoritarian regimes — is hardly a robust defense. Plus, Woolsey may not want to embrace such rank hypocrisy on national television. Moreover, what the CIA, State Department and other federal government appendages have done and are doing to interfere in the elections of other nations is not merely unseemly, it is also against the law.

“Meddling in other’s elections is a violation of international law,” Steve Baldwin wrote recently in The American Spectator. “More importantly, U.S. law prohibits the use of tax dollars to influence foreign elections.”

In an article last December, the New York Times noted the obvious and ongoing media fail of which they are a large part: “This broader history of election meddling has largely been missing from the flood of reporting on the Russian intervention . . .”

As American citizens we have every right to complain about Russian government interference in our elections, but our own government’s interference in other nation’s elections, including Russia’s, undermines our moral high ground.

To say the least.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections

1 posted on 02/25/2018 5:33:13 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Attempting to interfere in an election is perfectly OK unless Democrats lose, then it’s a heinous crime.

2 posted on 02/25/2018 6:27:53 AM PST by Bayan
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To: Kaslin

Flipping morons with another agenda.
Western Christian European man is the most advanced man on the planet due to his infrastructure rooted in theChristian philosophical brain fart called the Magna Carta.
This was the basis for his achievements and success. Nobody else on the planet did this... and now these asses (a hijacked CIA, Obama Soros and other assorted muslim marxists) want us to fold in under the residual turd worlders asses of the planet???

Lemme get this right, they want us to lead from behind as an exemplary turd world shithole nation? FUBO

3 posted on 02/25/2018 6:41:32 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Kaslin
“More importantly, U.S. law prohibits the use of tax dollars to influence foreign elections.”

The CIA has always had a Black Money budget which they use for illegal and undercover operations.

4 posted on 02/25/2018 6:47:24 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: himno hero

Well if you recall that arrogant pos former occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave thought that was the thing to do.

5 posted on 02/25/2018 6:49:58 AM PST by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: Kaslin

Only one problem; we weren’t flipping governments for the advancement of islam.

That is America’s problem today.

America itself is being flipped by those same agents.

6 posted on 02/25/2018 6:52:58 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Kaslin
“Meddling in other’s elections is a violation of international law,” Steve Baldwin wrote recently in The American Spectator. “More importantly, U.S. law prohibits the use of tax dollars to influence foreign elections.”

Of course its not legal. That's why they call it "espionage".

7 posted on 02/25/2018 6:55:41 AM PST by marron
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To: Kaslin

The funny thing is, espionage has become hyper-legal in the US. Its done right out in the open, with an alphabet soup of foundations, “non-profits”, law firms, PR and lobbying firms, “journalists”, and on. They (usually) file the right IRS forms and the whole thing becomes (sort of) legal.

Fusion GPS is a good example. They take in millions from both DNC and Russian sources, have contracts with both DNC and Russia, which gives both DNC and Russian operatives cover for coming and going from their offices. Unless you believe that the silly dossier really cost $12 million to write, you can see that Fusion is also engaged in money-laundering, as the source and destination of the money is hidden but quasi-legal.

You have Podesta with his “lobbying” firm, taking money from the Russians to do, what, precisely? He is the Clintons’ brain, and he is on the Russian payroll. You have FBI infiltrated by DNC operatives who are joined at the hip with Fusion who is, again, paid by the Russians with large amounts of money going unaccounted for. You have the Clinton Foundation receiving billions that are unaccounted for.

Reverse this picture and this is how we operate in target countries. In this case, we are the target country and our institutions have figured out how to do it sort-of-legally and right out in the open.

8 posted on 02/25/2018 7:09:39 AM PST by marron
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To: Kaslin
More importantly, U.S. law prohibits the use of tax dollars to influence foreign elections.

Duh, that's what the drugs and gun-running is for.

9 posted on 02/25/2018 7:37:28 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Kaslin

Circuit District Attorney from St. Louis, a Democrat received over $200K from Soros during her campaign. She indicted Missouri Governor Eric Greitens last week. Well, okay, the Grand Jury indicted. But she seemed overly ecstatic at his court appearance.

10 posted on 02/25/2018 8:19:33 AM PST by donozark (Restraining orders are just another way of saying I love you.)
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To: Albion Wilde

bump for later

11 posted on 02/25/2018 8:25:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde (We’re even doing the right thing for them. They just don’t know it yet. --Donald J. Trump)
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