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Marines hold nuclear site
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | Wednesday, April 9, 2003 | Carl Prine

Posted on 04/09/2003 10:29:29 AM PDT by Ditto

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:02:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SOUTH OF BAGHDAD In a valley sculpted by man, between the palms and roses, lies a vast marble and steel city known as Al-Tuwaitha.

In the suburbs about 18 miles south of the capital's suburbs, this city comprises nearly 100 buildings workshops, laboratories, cooling towers, nuclear reactors, libraries and barracks that belong to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission.


(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: altuwaitha; atomic; blix; cia; fedayeen; frenchnuclear; hamza; iaea; iraq; iraqinuclear; marines; nuclear; nuclearweapons; nuke; plutonium; radiation; seegar; semperfi; tierney; tuwaitha; un; unarmsinspections; unarmsinspectors; underground; unfailure; unitednations; unlegsinspectors; usmc; war; warlist; wmd
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To: Ditto
Legot uses (Co 60 for medicine) would require ONE ROOM for storage, dry, with NO WASTE WATER DRUMS. The Co is highly radioactive; very, very little else is.

Only minor waste like survey papers, filters, rags, uniforms, masks ... Simple low-level wastes.
101 posted on 04/09/2003 3:14:45 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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To: Ditto
16 hrs and running, the PPT has an exclusive on this story in America. What are the rest waiting for?
102 posted on 04/09/2003 3:17:22 PM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: XJarhead
Wrong.

Pull your head up and read up on nuclear programs and source/waste radiation levels from a "real" nuclear program before you say anything else to make yourself look more foolish.

These tanks are equal to the weapons grade, waste storage tanks we've been fighting in Washington since WWII.

You DON'T hide massive underground rooms in wet mud to create tiny Co60 sources.
103 posted on 04/09/2003 3:21:25 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I defer to your knowledge, but it seems the way to get rooms full of very high-level stuff it by reprocessing spent fuel to extract plutonium.
104 posted on 04/09/2003 3:27:34 PM PDT by Ditto (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: whadizit
Do journalists have certain rights on their stories? Can they sue if a news outlet doesn't use their own reporters/sources to find a story? I know you have to have permission to use photos/film...remember the flack FNC got when the used the Challenger film without permission.
105 posted on 04/09/2003 3:29:03 PM PDT by not-an-ostrich
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To: Ditto
Yes!

The Pu239 is produced as a by-product of inserting "regular" fuel into the reactor, then letting it "burn" for a while.

Then you pull several thousand pounds of HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE!!! (emphasis added) rods out, separate the Pu239 and U235 from the waste products (which creates deadly gasses and acidic waste products of dissolved metals and "junk") then take the separated grams of Pu239 to the bomb-making facility.

The rods are re-mixed, put back in the reactor, and you do it again. We are still "playing" with the tanks of liquid waste from WWII at hanford WA; and here, Hussein buried it in unlined drums in an aquifer next to a river!

Stupid. Criminally stupid.
106 posted on 04/09/2003 3:38:53 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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To: 2timothy3.16
hello Hans, you missed this, hanssss, hansssssssss, where are you hans?

In a Malmö nightclub using his favorite line:

Hi schveetie. My name is Hans und I'm hier too inspect yoo."

107 posted on 04/09/2003 3:39:45 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: katana
This isn't a smoking gun. It's a smoking howitzer.
That's not a smoking gun! This is a smoking gun! /dundee
108 posted on 04/09/2003 3:46:45 PM PDT by openotherend (Pray for the troops.)
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To: EaglesUpForever
Oh no, this will really ruin their day over at DU. After all, Iraq had a clean nuclear bill of health.

I am confident that one of our VRWC agents provocateurs will do their part in operation "DU Mindfu--" by posting the article.

109 posted on 04/09/2003 3:48:27 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: zeugma
bump again
110 posted on 04/09/2003 3:48:54 PM PDT by walden
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To: Richard Axtell
Sorry folks, another "red herring", another false alarm. This is clearly an innocent, civilian, non- weapons related, "Nuclear Insecticide Development Complex"

The sign out front read,

"Atomic Baby Milk Factory"

111 posted on 04/09/2003 3:51:14 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Arkie2
"French engineers spent a fortune pumping water from the foundation area, only to see buildings crumble when the water was removed".

I see French engineers are as good as French soldiers.

These were from the Ferdinand de Lesseps Brigade.

112 posted on 04/09/2003 3:54:50 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Ditto
I sent this link to FOXNEWS.
Couple hundred more people send it and they might report it.
113 posted on 04/09/2003 4:15:35 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Pull your head up and read up on nuclear programs and source/waste radiation levels from a "real" nuclear program before you say anything else to make yourself look more foolish.

Oh, so you're personally guaranteeing that this is indeed an illegal weapons site with weapon-grade material? Have you personally seen the exact readings that were taken? Or are you saying that any radiation reading that is dangerous to humans automatically confirms the presence of weapons grade material? Because the article is notably lacking in the type of detail you seem to be taking as fact.

Tell you what, why don't you say exactly what portions of that article confirm the presence of weapons grade material?

I love guys who express such certainty at preliminary reports. Seeing what you want to see rather than what the evidence proves. For example, the article assumes that no underground areas were explored when IAEA inspected the facility. But hey, that isn't quite correct:

http://www.iraqwatch.org/un/IAEA/iaea-inspex-021503.htm

On February 13, 2003, the inspectors did the following:

Two inspection teams inspected two facilities within the Tuwaitha site 20km south of Baghdad. The first team included nuclear experts experienced in rock climbing and inspected previously inaccessible underground chambers within the old Tamuz 1 reactor complex that had been destroyed by bombing in 1981.

I freely admit that the IAEA may have screwed up. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. But to use your phrase, I find it rather "foolish" to jump to the conclusion you seem to have reached based on a very preliminary report.

114 posted on 04/09/2003 4:21:13 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: norcalvet
I think a key point here is that the weapons inspectors don't appear to have even known about the vast underground side of this facility.

That's not clear. The IAEA filed a report stating that it inspected "underground chambers" at that facility in February. It's too vague to know exactly what they looked at, and what they may have missed. But the bozos missed the Iraqi nuke program during the 1980's, so I wouldn't be shocked if they missed this one too.

115 posted on 04/09/2003 4:24:35 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: philetus
I sent a link to Sean Hannity in prep for his evening Fox gnarl with Colmes.
116 posted on 04/09/2003 4:31:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Steven W.
Is ElBardei's nonfeasance a war crime?
117 posted on 04/09/2003 4:33:32 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: jwalsh07
So how come this mega story hasn't been picked up by the usual suspects?
118 posted on 04/09/2003 4:37:15 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Arkie2
These sme French engineers failed to create the Panama canal.

Ive worked hand to hand with French engineers and they can't stand up. If it had not been for their Filippino hired hands they would have failed worse than they did.

119 posted on 04/09/2003 4:37:45 PM PDT by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: hawkaw
Why the hell aren't the major networks talking about this or sending in reporters?????

They need something for tomorrow's news.

120 posted on 04/09/2003 4:43:10 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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