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Asner Defends Castro: "We Didn't Have a Free Election in 2002"
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| Thursday, May 08, 2003
| BrentBaker
Posted on 05/08/2003 12:35:27 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Ed Asner sees a greater threat from the Bush administration than from the hapless Fidel Castro who is being pushed around unfairly. Defending Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover signing a letter denouncing the U.S. for threatening Cuba, Asner charged on Wednesday's Buchanan & Press on MSNBC that "they may well be put in prison here for...the support they're giving to Castro, the way things are going in this country."
Asner insisted that those put to death by Castro, for trying to hijack a ferry so they could escape to the U.S., received a "very fair" trial.
Blaming the U.S. for Castro's repressive regime, Asner insisted: "My country is much more fortunate so it can't, it doesn't have to afford the excesses that Fidel Castro has to resort to by constantly being embargoed by the United States."
Asner asserted that he doesn't "regard the Bush Administration as being representative of my country."
When Pat Buchanan noted that Castro "has denied" Cubans "free elections for 40 years," Asner fired back: "We didn't have a free election in 2002."
MRC analyst Ken Shepherd caught Asner's wackiness which occurred during the 3-4pm EDT edition of MSNBC's May 7 Buchanan & Press. The relevant portion:
Buchanan: "Mr. Asner, thanks for coming on and Ed, let me ask you about Danny Glover and Harry Belafonte who have co-signed this statement basically supporting Fidel Castro after he put 75 dissidents in prison for up to 28 years and executed the three who tried to sort of hijack a ferry boat and come to Cuba [meant U.S.]. What is it about these, Harry Belafonte, frankly, and Danny Glover that they can attack the American government and defend a guy who would basically put him in prison for doing what they do here in the United States?"
Asner: "Well, they may well be put in prison here for those, for the support they're giving to Castro, the way things are going in this country. I am opposed to capital punishment by any country, by any persons. I disapprove of Mr. Castro's executing. I understand that the trial was very fair, that the death penalty is exercised in Cuba and therefore, by Cuban standards, the trial was fair and judicious even though I abhor the death penalty."
Buchanan: "I want you to name individuals in this country who have made political statements criticizing President Bush who have been put into a penitentiary for five, ten, or twenty-five years like these dissidents who criticized Castro were put into prison. And is this not a real slander on your own country to suggest that it behaves in the same manner as Fidel Castro?"
Asner: "Uh, my country is much more fortunate so it can't, it doesn't have to afford the excesses that Fidel Castro has to resort to by constantly being embargoed by the United States."
Buchanan: "Why does he have to do this? Why does he have to do it?"
Asner: "Why does he have to do it? Because he feels the imminent threat of the Bush administration. I don't regard the Bush administration as being representative of my country."
A bit later Buchanan pointed out: "He has persecuted his own people, he has denied them free elections for 40 years. He's an unelected dictator who puts people in prison on his own whim. What is the infatuation?"
Asner interjected: "We didn't have a free election in 2002."
Buchanan: "Alright, what is the infatuation in Hollywood with Fidel Castro given the record of this fascist regime over 40 years?"
Asner blamed the U.S. for driving Castro to communism: "What is the, because when Castro first took over, we all celebrated enormously. Cuba, which was never supposed to be under the hegemony of the United States had finally found its freedom. Within a year, because of pressure by the United States, Fidel demonstrated his independence of the United States. The United States could not tolerate a little country, a little Hispanic country 90 miles off the United States declaring its independence of the United States so immediately embargoes, everything began to take place, forcing him into the sphere of Soviet influence."
Yeah, he was such a pro-freedom guy as a guerrilla fighter.
TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asner; belafonte; buchanan; castro; cuba; edasner; glover; lougrantisaclymer; msnbc
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Name Country Estimated Net Worth
Forbes 02.27.03
Fidel Castro Cuba 110 million
To: fight_truth_decay
Who can turn the world off with his presence....
To: fight_truth_decay; Grampa Dave; Shermy
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:40:04 PM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Iran will feel the heat of our Iraq victory!)
To: fight_truth_decay
oh my, we had all better take the word of "Lou Grant" as gospel! He does know so much, after all!!
what an irrelevant pile of garbage he is. i wish Asner, Glover, Belafonte and the rest of their ilk would pack up and move to Cuba. we'd be glad to be rid of them.
To: fight_truth_decay
bookmark bump
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:40:36 PM PDT
by
lepton
To: fight_truth_decay
"by Cuban standards, the trial was fair and judicious"Translation = They actually bothered with a one day trial instead of shooting them outright.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:41:37 PM PDT
by
amused
(Republicans for Sharpton!)
To: fight_truth_decay
by Cuban standards, the trial was fair Did Clinton teach Asner how to weasel, or did Asner teach Clinton?
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:42:43 PM PDT
by
steve-b
To: fight_truth_decay
LOL! They're going down in flames.
To: fight_truth_decay
These people drive me up a wall.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:44:03 PM PDT
by
The Raven
(Socialism is a weapon of mass destruction)
To: fight_truth_decay
I didn't think it was possible, but after reading that transcript I realize that Ed Asner is even stupider than I imagined.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:44:46 PM PDT
by
dead
To: Paul Atreides
Is that a line from "The Candy Man"?
To: fight_truth_decay
Whether it be the Ortega run Communist Party in Nicaragua, the communist insurgents in El Salvador or the Communist regime in Cuba, Ed Asner has loved them all.
Our nation resembles nothing that Asner loves. We allow free speach. We hold genuine elections. We allow our citizens to come and go as they please.
Only a few nations in this world's history have been so bad that they had to forbid their citizens leave, even shoot them or execute them for trying. Ed has loved them all.
Asner seemingly doesn't even understand the electorial process, the electoral college and the way presidents are selected. If he does, he even objects to that.
Why in the hell doesn't he move to Cuba and set up shop down there?
To: gathersnomoss
It's a play on words from the Mary Tyler Moore theme song.
To: fight_truth_decay
Replies in order:
Glover - making $$$ in Hollywood and endorsing MCI. Hey, Danny! No private film and telecommunications industries in Cuba with all the big bucks the American companies give you.
Belafonte - Has-been. Admires a country whose "justice" system executes you 3 daaaaaay-o's after trial.
Asner - Another has-been. Proud of playing "Mr. Freedom-of-the-Press" in "Lou Grant". Maybe Granma or Radio Havana can give him a job.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:47:20 PM PDT
by
rrstar96
(Strength and Honor!)
To: fight_truth_decay
...oh, Mr. Grant...
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:48:00 PM PDT
by
RichInOC
(...you're such a fool.)
To: fight_truth_decay
"We didn't have a free election in 2002." Just what the he!! is he talking about? The election of 2002 featured the RATS pulling every dirty trick in the book in Minnesota and New Jersey and actually stealing the election in South Dakota. If he is speaking of the presidential election of 2000, he better back off a bit on his meds.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:48:17 PM PDT
by
anoldafvet
(Freedom isn't free, it's the most costly gift you'll ever receive.)
To: fight_truth_decay
This is the operator, Mr. Michael Moore. Will you accept a collect call from a Mr. Asner?
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:48:30 PM PDT
by
Mark
(Treason doeth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
To: fight_truth_decay
If big Ed is correct about the 2000 election, then Bush might be eligible for two more terms.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:50:01 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: fight_truth_decay
Asner: "Uh, my country is much more fortunate so it can't, it doesn't have to afford the excesses that Fidel Castro has to resort to by constantly being embargoed by the United States." We can't buy Castro's cigars so he has to shoot people who want to leave his country?
To: fight_truth_decay
Why in hell does anyone care what some lousy actor has to say about political issues? His only saving grace is I know what side to take on a given issue, if he's for it, I'm against it, and if he's against it, I'm probably for it. Thanks Lou!
To: fight_truth_decay
What a load of crap, what Eddy Arsner really meant was "you didn't let us steal the election in 2002". I've got bad news for the election scammers... this time we have our eyes on you and those military ballots. With any luck these guys will assume room temperature before the next election. By natural means of course.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:50:51 PM PDT
by
Camel Joe
(Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
To: fight_truth_decay
read later
To: fight_truth_decay
Asner conveniently ignores the tens of thousands of freedom-loving Cubans who have voted with their feet and escaped from Fidel's gulag.
Then he complains about the effects of the US embargo and of how that forces poor Fidel to do these terrible things, and of how its the imminent threat of the Bush administration. The idiot seems not to know that this embargo has been going on for close on 40-50 years now, going back to Asner's beloved Kennedy administration. If socialism is so great, why is Cuba bothered at all by an embargo by a decadent Western capitalist country? Surely their multitude of flourishing Maxist brethren countries around the world (how many are there now, one or two, maybe?) can help them out? Mugabe or Chavez, maybe, when they aren't bankrupting or otherwise ruining their own countries?
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:51:36 PM PDT
by
chimera
To: fight_truth_decay
Ed Asner is still alive?
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:53:02 PM PDT
by
jpl
To: fight_truth_decay
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:53:40 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: jpl
Ed Asner is still alive?Only from the neck down.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Asner is a loon. He's got every lefty pretextual deflection down pat. Castro became communist because of the USA. My favorite was his rant that Iraq had to invade Kuwait because of slant-drilling for oil.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:54:40 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Camel Joe
Of course.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:54:46 PM PDT
by
katana
To: chimera
Clymer = @sshole, Asner = Moron
To: fight_truth_decay
Asner interjected: "We didn't have a free election in 2002." Uh, Ed...the disputed presidential election was in the year 2000...
To: fight_truth_decay
I think he screwed up.
Isn't that supposed to be 2000? The Sore/Loserman year?
To: DoughtyOne
He is either ignroant or just plain stupid. Either way, that is no way to go through life. Asner is so pathetic you do not know whether to cry or laugh.
To: Consort
You are right!!!
If we STOLE the election, then he wasn't ELECTED!
22nd Amendment only says you can't be ELECTED TO TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS.
EIGHT MORE YEARS! EIGHT MORE YEARS!
To: Saundra Duffy
YEP....I'm with you...I think the LIBS have lost it and are burning up fast....and we are watching HISTORY.....we lived through their historical rise over the last 50 years, and now for the rest of my life I will celebrate their demise (I pray, I pray)....but, yes, they are hysterical in the depths to which they will go in their stupidity.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:58:25 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(He (or she) who pays the bills, makes the rules.)
To: rrstar96
The Glover MCI connection has been cut according to another thread.
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:59:29 PM PDT
by
xp38
To: fight_truth_decay
For years lefties have been calling any government or authority they disapprove of "fascist." This of course shows a profound lack of understanding of political systems. It is good to read that ol' Pat called Castro the commie a fascist when in fact, national socialism is structurally the same as the Leninist states. Perhaps if enough people catch on to this, groups like the ANSWER Coalition and their brethren will not be able to actively recruit at future protests, whether it be war or IMF. I'm hoping people will say "wait, how is the government you purpose any different then that of the Nazis?"
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posted on
05/08/2003 12:59:40 PM PDT
by
sbw123
To: Camel Joe
"We didn't have a free election in 2002."
Translation = "We didn't win so there must have been something wrong with the election."
News Flash "Rats are sore losers"
To: never4get
I'm still sitting here wondering why anyone should care what that has-been has to say.
To: fight_truth_decay
When Pat Buchanan noted that Castro "has denied" Cubans "free elections for 40 years," Asner fired back: "We didn't have a free election in 2002."The a$$hole Asner is correct. Although, not for the reason he thinks.
I was there Ed, and your boys did everything in their power to insure it wasn't a free election.
Only problem Eddy boy, is that we were there en masse, and prevented the theft.
8^)
5.56mm
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posted on
05/08/2003 1:05:33 PM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: DoughtyOne
He could certainly afford to have a Cuban lovely in every week to shave his back.
To: anoldafvet
"We didn't have a free election in 2002." Just what the he!! is he talking about? The election of 2002 featured the RATS pulling every dirty trick in the book in Minnesota and New Jersey and actually stealing the election in South Dakota. Well he was right wasn't he.
To: never4get
Agreed.
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Yeah, but I don't think he has enough money to purchase that favor. lol
To: fight_truth_decay
"We didn't have a free election in 2002." English Translation: The liberals lost. It is inconceivable that liberals could lose if there were a free election. Therefore, it must have been the work of the evil vast right wing conspiracy.
"[W]hen Castro first took over, we all celebrated enormously. Cuba, which was never supposed to be under the hegemony of the United States had finally found its freedom. Within a year, because of pressure by the United States, Fidel demonstrated his independence of the United States. The United States could not tolerate a little country, a little Hispanic country 90 miles off the United States declaring its independence of the United States so immediately embargoes, everything began to take place, forcing him into the sphere of Soviet influence."
Castro took over in 1959. According to Asner, the evil U.S. empire forced poor Castro to become a commie a year later. So he must be talking about the Kennedy administration. But I thought Kennedy was a democRAT?
To: fight_truth_decay
oh god!
longing for the good ol' days when bill clinton was raping juanita broaderick, smoking cigars in the oval office, and his buddy vince committed suicide in the white house parking lot, but the body was discovered miles away!
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posted on
05/08/2003 1:13:11 PM PDT
by
liberalnot
(what democrats fear the most is real democracy.)
To: fight_truth_decay
"We didn't have a free election in 2002."Get used to this, gang. From now on, every election is going to be called dirty. Every time there is the slightest dispute, and even when there isn't, the stole-the-election crowd is going to lose their minds. The only way to fight it is to not do wha they do, and remain calm and rational while they throw public tantrums.
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posted on
05/08/2003 1:14:08 PM PDT
by
pupdog
To: Paul Atreides
LOL! Oh, Mr. Grant!
These guys are going to get really interesting after President Bush is reelected.
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posted on
05/08/2003 1:17:11 PM PDT
by
dixiechick2000
(Never have so many been so wrong about so much.)
To: pupdog
Or as Rush says, laugh at them. It drives them nuts.
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posted on
05/08/2003 1:17:13 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Bush/Rice 2004- pray for our troops)
To: gathersnomoss; Paul Atreides
Who can turn the world on with a smile? Mary Richards (Tyler Moore)...Your'e quick!
To: chimera
Here's a little story about the Embargo that has been completely erased by revisionism and poor journalism. A few months after Castro tricked the U.S. into helping him overthrow Batista, he showed his true colors by admitting he was aligned with the communists all along, and Nationalized all the American holdings in Cuba. This included a lot of land, homes, casinos, and wealth totaling hundreds of millions of dollars. He then threw all the Americans off the island. The US was rightly angered and the Legislature unanimously passed an Embargo on Cuba to force Castro to give back the American holdings. He could have ended the Embargo at any time during the last forty years by simply giving the Americans back their property. But it has been more profitable all these years to play the victim. And that's the real TRUTH!!!
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