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Knights Armament SR-47
Quarterbore ^ | April 2003 | SCOTT GOURLEY

Posted on 07/28/2003 12:57:26 PM PDT by 45Auto

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To: FreeInWV
"Scavenging ammo" is a great thing, if you are in an environment where enemy ammo is available everywhere by the truckload, and your own resupplies are few and far between.
21 posted on 07/28/2003 4:03:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: harpseal
At least our guys are thinking, right?

Next year, another group will come full circle and swear that 9mm is the answer.

22 posted on 07/28/2003 4:05:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: CCCV
but I would be scared of "battlefield pick-up". Especially after the enemy has found out that you use it.

We're talking about tiny units like A-teams and SEAL squads operating behind enemy lines where there are umpteen bazillion AK-47s. The bad guys are never going to be able to pin down the movements of our teams to the point where they would be able to seek sabotaged ammo for them.

If they could track their movements that well, they'd just go and kill them with companies of soldiers.

Seeding sabotaged ammo works well only in the reverse situation, where small clandestine teams (think MAC/SOG on the HCM Trail) put out tampered ammo etc among a large enemy army unit.

23 posted on 07/28/2003 4:10:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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when are they going to get the recoil spring out of the stock? I guess they wanted the AR "look" and there is no way to do it, or at least not at a decent price point.
24 posted on 07/28/2003 4:21:41 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: Eaker
Ping to your rifle firing my rounds!
25 posted on 07/28/2003 4:23:08 PM PDT by humblegunner ()
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To: 45Auto
I saw that new russian round on a Hist Chl or something show. sounds like it has pretty nasty 'pinball' effect.
26 posted on 07/28/2003 4:24:46 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: humblegunner
Cool!!!

Thanks for the ping!

Eaker

27 posted on 07/28/2003 4:34:41 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: 45Auto; Squantos; Travis McGee
Didn't we have a discussion sometime back about the Robinson Arms Select-Fire that used 7.62 ComBloc and AK mags?
P.S. Got a call from Baghdad this weekend, Robert is doing okay.
28 posted on 07/28/2003 4:40:11 PM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: Britton J Wingfield
bump
29 posted on 07/28/2003 4:47:42 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Here is your picture fixed up:


30 posted on 07/28/2003 4:53:33 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: harpseal
One of the tactics used by the SEAL TEAMS in RVN was to put a charge of c-4 in anAK47 magazine about ten rounds down. When it hit a trip switch after en rounds were fired the charge of C4 detonated. There is another reason for this and a good one.

The Commies returned the favor, too. I've got a book around here that gives detailed information on com-bloc firearms and ammo, including a "special" 7.62x39 round that was charged with high explosive instead of gunpowder.

31 posted on 07/28/2003 5:14:37 PM PDT by Cloud William
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To: grobdriver
Can't tell friend from foe by gunfire though.

Does the distinctive sound of the Kalashnikov come from the ammunition it uses, or from its design?

32 posted on 07/28/2003 5:16:50 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: harpseal
Not just AK ammunition. They did the same type of reconfigurement to mortar rounds, grenades and anything else that would go boom in the face of pith helmet.
33 posted on 07/28/2003 5:36:47 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: TEXASPROUD
It's very smart to use the most common and available mags in the world, and no others. Having a gun with "orphan" mags really bites.

A call from Bagdad eh? Can you imagine if you dreamed that two years ago? You'd have awakened and thought, "What an incredible dream. It could never happen in a thousand years."

Yet there he is!

34 posted on 07/28/2003 5:52:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
The .300 Whisper is the .221 Remington Fireball necked-up to .308 and loaded with bullets ranging in weight from 125 to 190 grains. The overall length of the round with the 168 grain Sierra HPBT is the same as the .223 so the round will fit in normal AR 15 mags. It is the invention of J.D. Jones of SSK industries in Ohio, although something very similar was made by the late Elgin Gates for single-shot metallic silhouette competition called the .223-.30 x 1.5. Jones chambers the T.C. Contender, the AR 15 and the Remington 700 bolt action rifle in the .300 Whisper.

Its called the 'whisper' because it can be loaded to subsonic velocities for use in sound suppressed guns by military and law enforcement. It is no longer considered a 'wildcat' cartridge because there is a company that sells loaded ammo; I forget what their name is at the moment. My own experiments with the .300 Whisper in the AR 15 with an SSK upper receiver have shown that it requires a very narrow range of very fast-burning rifle powders such as IMR 4227 and that even a half-grain over-load will produce a substantial pressure rise. Although not dangerous at that level, it shortens brass life considerably due to primer pocket deformation. It is, however, quite accurate.

35 posted on 07/28/2003 5:56:32 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto
What's a typical subsonic whisper load? As in bullet, velocity etc.

How is that superior to, say, .45 ACP? Couldn't a Thompson with a closed breech option do the same mission at less cost?

The OSS in WW2 used a funky looking .45ACP bolt action carbine for extremely quiet sentry work.

36 posted on 07/28/2003 6:56:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: 45Auto
It is no longer considered a 'wildcat' cartridge because there is a company that sells loaded ammo; I forget what their name is at the moment

Cor-bon?

37 posted on 07/28/2003 6:59:58 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Travis McGee
We're talking about tiny units like A-teams and SEAL squads
Good point. Probably wouldn't be much of a problem for those kinds of operations. Sounds like a pretty cool weapon anyway.
38 posted on 07/28/2003 7:01:01 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Here is your picture fixed up:
Looks Great! Looks a bit like the old DAEWOO .223. The thing had a bolt & carrier like the M16 and the gas system of an AK.
39 posted on 07/28/2003 7:04:43 PM PDT by CCCV
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To: 45Auto
Kewl. What does it sound like when fired?
40 posted on 07/28/2003 7:06:49 PM PDT by Teacher317
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