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To: malakhi
>>>>If you are really interested, here is a link for you: >>>>Talmud: The Real Truth About The Talmud

>> 1. As mentioned above with Ben Stada, the Synoptic Gospels have Jesus being executed on Passover itself and not the eve of Passover.

Jesus was executed on the even of the Pharisees' passover. He himself celebrated the Essene passover, and this was the passover mentionned in the synoptics. The authors didn't really expect a Christian to throw out the Gospel of John over this, did they?

>>2. As above, Yeshu lived a century before Jesus.

Funny, the web page just argued that they were *not* the same person.

>>3. Yeshu was executed by a Jewish court and not by the Romans. During Yeshu's time, the reign of Alexander Janneus, the Jewish courts had the power to execute but had to be careful because the courts were ruled by the Pharisees while the king was a Sadducee. It seems clear why the courts would not want to unneccesarily upset the monarch by executing a friend of his. During the Roman occupation of Jesus' time, there is no indication that the Jewish courts had the right to execute criminals.

It is quite easy to see how one could assert Jesus was executed by the Jews, actually.

>> 3. There is no indication from the New Testament that Jesus had friends in the government.

No, but this doesn't say he had friends. A wary politician would meet the passage well. Like, say, Pontius Pilate or his wife.
14 posted on 10/08/2003 1:54:54 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
Not that I have a real horse in this race. Jews are allowed to have their own side in a historical issue.
15 posted on 10/08/2003 2:16:36 PM PDT by dangus
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Funny, the web page just argued that they were *not* the same person.

There does seem to be a difference of opinion, doesn't there? The traditional Jewish interpretation of those passages from the Talmud is that they are not references to the Jesus of the gospels. Bayme, then, is advancing something of a maverick theory.

18 posted on 10/08/2003 3:37:26 PM PDT by malakhi (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.)
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